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Originally Posted by Ramseyfan
I'm still in favor of the signing.
1. We're gonna pay top dollar to keep Bailey (if we don't trade him)
2. We need to consummate a deal soon to stay well beneath the cap for FA
3. I'm not so sure the Lions would give their 1st pick + another pick
4. Portis will demand a LOT less than Bailey (probably 5 million/yr. not 9 mill)
5. The 6th overall pick is going to cost a boatload to sign
6. If you trade down from #6, you're going to pay a boatload for 2 high picks
7. The draft can be risky (see Desmond Howard et al)
8. Gibbs' system requires a top notch, proven back
9. Top notch proven backs don't come cheap (unless they're old)
10. Portis is, IMHO, the best back in the league and is one of the youngest
11. Signing Kearse, Springs, & Gardener/Washington will offset Champ's loss
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as much as I hate to disagree with a fellow skins fan, How could anyone not think the best complete back in the NFL right now is LaDainian Tomlinson of the SD Chargers? Granted Portis is up there but atleast a big portion of his yardage comes from his o-line while LT got all of his #'s with a terrible line of young players and a pathetic passing game(other than the 100 catches he pulled in.)
now what the skins should do is forget the Portis deal as much as I would love to have a young RB on the possible cusp of being in the upper ranks of the all time RBs, the deal is too costly to us. We don't know for sure if we can give him the contract he's gonna be looking for and not only are we giving up one of possibly the top 15 players in the league, we have to give up a very high 2nd round pick?!?! so here we go and this is gonna involve quite a few trades so it probably isn't all that feasible but it would work(but thats the fun part before the draft isn't it?):
1.)trade champ to Atlanta for their 1st(#8) and 2nd round picks which they seem ready to give up
2.)draft taylor with the #5 if he's still there but if not there isn't anyone who fills a need that is worth that high of a pick and huge signing bonus so trade that pick down in the 10-15 range for a team's 1st, possible 2nd or atleast 3rd, and a 5th or 6th rounder if possible
3.)with the 8th pick trade down to a team in the 20-25 range and their 2nd round pick
4.) with the 10-15 pick we take stephen jackson or Kevin Jones and we have ourselves a stud running at atleast a 1/3 or 1/4 the price Portis is going to want
5.)with the 20-25 pick take the de from USC or chris gamble if he's somehow available
6.) use the 2nd round picks to get a cb like D. Hall if gamble wasn't available earlier, an offensive linemen you can groom if samuels has to go this year or next, a wide reciever which there are a vast amount to choose from cuz I don't know about u but I'm tired of Gardner having the dropsies, and a yound d-linemen to be a back up atleast in his first year or a olb like boulware to replace armstead
7.)the rest of the picks should be used for solid back ups and a late round pick for a new punter
8.) use free agency to get someone at CB like Troy Vincent best case scenario or someone like b.taylor, a. plummer, or winfield who did pretty well under Greg williams(spring's has been hurt a lot with lingering injuries)/ DT: R. Coleman or R. Smith/DE: Kearse who is free of a franch. tag or grant winstrom
The contracts shouldn't be all that high for the first rounders, the really bad contracts are usually the top 5 or so. the draft I propose would provide a vast group of young players w/o very costly contracts which would all be about 4-5 years in length. The free agents listed might be a bit pricey but nothing snyder and cerrato can't work with.
plus is anyone else as scared about what might come out from this problem w/arrington's contract? this doesn't sound good but it also sounds a bit fishy from the agents side too since he first reported the contract being around 80 million even though it was 74.5 and now he's saying the contract turned in was for 6.5 million less than what was signed and agreed too. This would be the third suspicious business transaction being investigated invovling the skins in less than a year(tampering with Milloy and recently sam adams.) I hope this is all just some big mistake but it feels like something bads about to happen.