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Originally Posted by offiss
Personel attacks only BEARS out your ingnorance!
The fact is Gibbs didn't want to cut Jacoby, he wanted 100 players in camp and not 1 more, so one of the scouts showed up with him and Gibbs yelled at him telling him he only wanted 100 players in camp and not 1 more, the scout said Jacoby is over 300 pounds with a 38 inch waste, Gibbs said then cut some one else, so in fairness to Gibbs he never saw the guy play to make an evaluation it was a numbers thing at the time.
Gibbs didn't have to play players and could cut who he wanted but how was he really going to circumvent BB without free agency that is in place now? He couldn't, he had to go with the players BB gave him, which turned out to be tremendous players along with tremendous depth. BB parted ways with us because of personnel disagreements with Gibbs which I believe the Mike Olyphant for Byner trade and the Gerald Riggs trade that BB did at Gibbs behest was the last straw for BB.
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First. I apologize for the personal attack it was over the top. Your "It's all Gibbs fault, Ramsey's really a great QB who never got a chance" attitude coupled with your abiding Brunnell hatred got to me and I vented in an inappropriate fashion.
With that said, and IMHO, you're consistent ragging on Gibbs b/c of his handling of Ramsey is simply wrong headed and ignores Ramsey's inability to win a starting job anywhere else in this QB starved league. Your refusal to admit that Ramsey's lack of success is his own fault and continued assertion that it is all Gibbs'/Spurrier's fault is particularly annoying. Ramsey has had ample opportunities to "seize the day" and has failed to do so. I have always liked the guy, but it is seems pretty clear that the NFL's coaches and GM's simply don't believe he can be a starter in this league.
Second, to imply or intimate that Gibbs drove off Beathard ignores the nature of the relationship, is disengenous and fails to look at the complete "Beathard" picture. Bobby was a California boy and never thought of the east coast as home. In addition, I think it's been pretty well documented that Gibbs and BB had a stressful but productive partnership. Two very talented men whose different approaches and/or duties led to some heated disagreements. In even the best of circumstances, this creates a difficult work enviroment and, coupled with his desire to live on the west coast, BB moved on. Had Gibbs been the cali boy and not Beathard, it would probably been Gibbs who had left first.