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sportscurmudgeon · 10-11-2004, 08:48 AM

Ramseyfan:

Vince Lombardi coached one season in DC. He took over a team that had posted one winning record in the past 12 or 13 years and made them a .500 team in the first season. Then he came down with cancer and died.

To say that he was "not successful" or that maybe "the game had passed him by" is really a tenuous argument.

When Casey Stengel camae back from retirement to coach the Mets when they were created, his team lost 120 games in one year. No one - and I mean NO ONE - thought then or thinks today that it was Stengel's being behind the times that caused that. He did not have the players.

Joe Gibbs has a flawed team on the field. He inherited an even more flawed team but in a salary cap enforinment, you cannot fix everything in a single year. Now, if the team is still this flawed next year at this time, it will be perfectly appropriate to ask if Joe Gibbs is on top of football as it is played in 2005.

10-11-2004, 08:48 AM	#34
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Ramseyfan: Vince Lombardi coached one season in DC. He took over a team that had posted one winning record in the past 12 or 13 years and made them a .500 team in the first season. Then he came down with cancer and died. To say that he was "not successful" or that maybe "the game had passed him by" is really a tenuous argument. When Casey Stengel camae back from retirement to coach the Mets when they were created, his team lost 120 games in one year. No one - and I mean NO ONE - thought then or thinks today that it was Stengel's being behind the times that caused that. He did not have the players. Joe Gibbs has a flawed team on the field. He inherited an even more flawed team but in a salary cap enforinment, you cannot fix everything in a single year. Now, if the team is still this flawed next year at this time, it will be perfectly appropriate to ask if Joe Gibbs is on top of football as it is played in 2005. __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...