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Old 06-28-2008, 01:49 PM   #372
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Re: Ted Nugent on Gun Control

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I agree with your point, but it does cut both ways. Many hippie, pot-smoking liberals want legalized drugs and drive-thru abortion clinics. I'm obviously being absurd, but my main point is that the morals of CA aren't the same as KS and IMO the federal government shouldn't be dictating liberal or conservative morality to the entire country.
Of course, there has to be limits and I don't know why anyone thinks abortion and gay marriage are somehow inside those limits. How far is too far and are bans on abortion and gay marriage too far?

One of the roles of the government is to protect the individual from the government itself (both federal and state). This includes protection from the mob and state sanctioned discriminatory laws based on the values of the mob.


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There are obviously limits on what laws a state could pass, but I would trust the people of a particular state to decide what's best for them rather than 535 congress-people or 9 judges in DC. There are plenty of lawyers and advocacy groups on both sides to keep each other in check and the laws pretty reasonable. Yes, there would be conflicts between states' laws and that's where the Supreme Court would make determinations based on their constitutionality. You know I'm not advocating doing away with the federal system, but the federal government has grown far too large and has its fingers in way too many pies.
That's how currently things work...states enact laws, someone challenges those laws and the US Supreme Court decides the constitutionality of these laws. Now, if you want to take the feds out of the picture and let entities within the state fight it out then you are bound to have Brown vs. Board of Education of Topeka and Loving vs Virginia. In the Loving case the Supreme Court of Virginia in it's infinite wisdom said the law against interracial marriage is constitutional.

I know your position, I'm just asking where do you draw the line? What particular problem exists in our current system whereby the Supreme Court is the Ultimate decider in matters concerning constitutionality of things.
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