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Old 12-31-2008, 12:52 AM   #92
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Re: JLC: Rogers, Possibly on the Way Out

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Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan View Post
It is a silly question because it is 100% subjective and you clearly don't like Carlos Rogers so your answer will be that he would not start for any team, but here are the depth charts for corners on the division/playoff teams.

Atlanta: so I'd take him over anyone Atlanta has.
LCB:Domonique Foxworth
Chevis Jackson - r

Brent Grimes

RCB:
Chris Houston
David Irons (IR)


Arizona: Ditto on Arizona
LCB:Roderick Hood
Michael Adams
RCB:D. Rodgers-Cro - r
Eric Green

Baltimore: Who would you take over Rogers from the vaunted Ravens defense? The Raiders traded Fabian Washington for a 4th round pick by the way.
LCB:Fab. Washington - inj
Corey Ivy
Chris McAlister (IR)
RCB:Samari Rolle - inj
Frank Walker

Carolina: Gamble is a good player. I guess Lucas is as well, though I haven't watched either of them play a whole lot. And Carolina wouldn't trade a 2004 1st round pick (Gamble) and instead gave him an extension this November.
LCB:Chris Gamble
Richard Marshall
RCB:Ken Lucas
Dante Wesley

Dallas: Who would you take other than Newman?
LCB:Ter. Newman
Mike Jenkins - r
Alan Ball
RCB:Anthony Henry
Adam Jones - inj
Orl. Scandrick
Keith Davis - r

Indy: Um, would you take Marlin Jackson? (who was drafted after Rogers in 2005)
LCB:Kelvin Hayden
Dante Hughes
RCB:Tim Jennings
Keiwan Ratliff
Mar. Jackson (IR)
Nick Graham (IR)

Miami: I'm starting to agree with Rogers that he could start for any of these playoff teams. But let's definitely trade him for a 2nd or 3rd rounder. Cornerbacks are a dime a dozen.
LCB:Will Allen
Michael Lehan
RCB:Andre' Goodman
Nathan Jones

Minnesota: Winfield ... he also makes a ton of cash and is five years older than Rogers.
LCB:Antoine Winfield
Marcus McCauley
RCB:Cedric Griffin
Benny Sapp
Char. Gordon (IR)

New England: I'll throw them in since they were 11-5
LCB:Jonathan Wilhite - r
Deltha O'Neal
RCB:Ellis Hobbs - inj
Mike Richardson
Jas. Webster (IR)
Ter. Wheatley (IR)

New York: I'm sure the Giants wouldn't have room for Rogers on their team (that's sarcasm). Terrell Thomas was also a second round pick in 2008. Would you trade Carlos Rogers for him?
LCB:Aaron Ross - inj
Kevin Dockery
Terrell Thomas - r
RCB:Corey Webster
R.W. McQuarters
Sam Madison

Philadelphia: They are deep (and well paid) at Corner. But you wouldn't take Rogers over Sheldon Brown? The Eagles also couldn't get the picks they wanted for Lito Sheppard (a then 26 year old Pro Bowl corner) ... would teams be willing to give the Redskins as much or more for Rogers than they were willing to give for Sheppard? So are we even talking about getting a 2nd back in return for a young talented corner?
LCB:Asante Samuel
Lito Sheppard
RCB:Sheldon Brown
Joselio Hanson

Pittsburgh:
LCB:Ike Taylor
Anthony Madison
RCB:Bry. McFadden - inj
Deshea Townsend - inj
William Gay

San Diego: They had two first round picks at Corner and then spent another first rounder on Cason in 2008. Think corners are important?
LCB:Quentin Jammer
Antonie Cason - r
RCB:Ant. Cromartie
DeJuan Tribble - r

Tennessee: I had no idea Tyrone Poole was still in the NFL. He was drafted the same year that the Redskins took Michael Westbrook! Anyway, give me Rogers over Nick Harper.
LCB:Nick Harper
Chris Carr
RCB:Cort. Finnegan
Tyrone Poole

Well, I think the answer to your question is obvious, but as I said at the outset it is subjective so I guess you can disagree. If Rogers is actually on the block I'm going to have to take a break from the Redskins for a few weeks at least. It truly boggles the mind. I can understand how fans could get down on a guy for dropping some picks, but the coaches theoretically break down the tape. How do they not see that Rogers is a player/?
Thanks for the detail. I wasn't going to take the time to research all of them, but you made a few good points. He would be a starter for some of those teams. You're right, I've never been a Rogers fan and think we can do better than him on the free agent market if we can get good value in a trade. The coaches had to have been seeing something for his playing time to drop to nil down the stretch.

Despite him having the worst ball skills I've ever seen from a position player, I wouldn't hate it if he accepted a reasonable deal and we had Hall & Rogers for the next 5 years. I don't think he's going to be signable long term because he thinks he's much better than he is, that's the biggest reason I'd advocate the trade.
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