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GTripp0012 · 01-07-2009, 05:10 PM

I think value to a team can be measured two ways.

The way I would measure it for the MVP is by play. Peyton Manning deserved this award because he was more valuable on a play-by-play basis than Drew Brees was. Literally having more value, because plays where he had the ball in his hands were worth more points, or yards, or wins or whatever measure you prefer than Brees' were.

Brees deserved offensive POY because he was a larger part of his teams' offense than Manning was of his. Not more valuable, necessarily, but ended up doing more (a higher quantity) of winning plays than Manning did, simply by virtue of oppertunity.

And I agree that in a bunch of years, these will often be the same player. But Brees threw 650+ times for more than 5,000 yards. Even though he wasn't as valuable as Manning, I have no problem at all with them deeming him the offensive player of the year.

Of course, in reality, these awards aren't nearly as well defined as I just made them, so they pretty much eliminate the MVP from consideration in the Offensive POY.

01-07-2009, 05:10 PM	#13
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 38 Posts: 15,994	Re: Brees named AP offensive player of year I think value to a team can be measured two ways. The way I would measure it for the MVP is by play. Peyton Manning deserved this award because he was more valuable on a play-by-play basis than Drew Brees was. Literally having more value, because plays where he had the ball in his hands were worth more points, or yards, or wins or whatever measure you prefer than Brees' were. Brees deserved offensive POY because he was a larger part of his teams' offense than Manning was of his. Not more valuable, necessarily, but ended up doing more (a higher quantity) of winning plays than Manning did, simply by virtue of oppertunity. And I agree that in a bunch of years, these will often be the same player. But Brees threw 650+ times for more than 5,000 yards. Even though he wasn't as valuable as Manning, I have no problem at all with them deeming him the offensive player of the year. Of course, in reality, these awards aren't nearly as well defined as I just made them, so they pretty much eliminate the MVP from consideration in the Offensive POY. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.