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Old 03-15-2009, 01:42 AM   #38
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Re: Jon Stewart Wins Cramer Showdown

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Secret Lovers. Atlantic Starr, right? Now I'm going to have that song in my head as well their other one. "Ooh you're like the sun. Chasing all of the rain away...." 9th grade, good times.

The obsession with whole foods is just one minor example that Goldberg uses to demonstrate that the fascist movement was largely the product of a progressive sensibility- progressive in the early twentieth century sense of the word. Think Upton Sinclair and Margaret Sanger. I'm not sure it ever ocurred to anyone that Mussolini or Hitler might be rightists until Stalin decreed it to be so, for his own tactical reasons. Of course, Stalin decreed that Trotsky was a rightist as well and nobody takes that at face value. But there is no point in this. Like your boyfiend John Stewart, you haven't read the book.

And again, the link you give is to a 6 minute interview that is edited down from 18. Obviously, things didn't go the way Stewie originally expected. I think it's pretty cheap to have a debate with someone, and then cut out all the parts where the other guy lands punches. It would be like me, editing all of your posts in this thread to remove any good points you made (obviously a hypothetical). If he were just interested in laughs, I don't think he would feel the need to do things like that. If Goldberg's book were as silly as he would have us believe, he wouldn't feel the need to do things like that.

I wasn't thinking of any particular song/band but if I were I would go with Luther Vandross' "Your Secret Love."

I haven't read Liberal Fascism but I know enough about it having watched Goldberg pimp his book on many occasions. From what I have seen of his act the problem I have is that he attempts to link liberalism and fascism exclusively while asserting conservatism is mutually exclusive to fascism using mostly anecdotal devices. If someone wanted to write a book(s) today called Conservatism Fascism or Conservatism Racism I assure you they would have enough material to write such a book(s). It would be silly book, a shameful book but your life partner seems to have high tolerance for shame.

The real problem with his book is that its objective is "tie liberalism to fascism." Not exactly a difficult thing to do...let me try...if you're a hunter and you have a dagger, you have something in common with Hitler's youth, they had knives.

I might be bias but even edited he sounds like a dumb-f*ck. I mean, the dude is riling against slander while committing it and doesn't like seeing words thrown around yet he's very comfortable doing it. Hopefully we will see the full 18 minutes someday and the conservative world would stop the conspiratorial madness.
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