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Old 03-22-2009, 02:07 PM   #180
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Re: Per Vinny Cerrato, JC is our QB this season!

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat View Post
We would be. To us, Campbell is pretty much valueless in a trade because if we keep him, this will be his last year here - hes a horrible fit for our system. Campbell is going to go away for nothing after the season if we keep him on the roster this year, so essentially, we would just be trading our first rounder for a young yet proven pro-bowl quarterback ideal for the offense we run and one who can compensate for our declining line by his quick release and decision making.

Last year, Campbell had a pro-bowl LT, RB, FB, TE and WR to help him, yet he still couldnt get it done. Cutler had half the supporting cast that Campbell did, yet he still made the guys around him look better... When has Campbell carried this team? Campbell is a guy who will never singlehandedly lose a game for his team, but he also wont win any games for his team either. A QB like Cutler could put this team over the top; whether we are actually able to get him or not, is another matter.

Theres an interesting thread on extremeskins where an industrious member there found dozens of quotes from the board when the Redskins were rumored to be targeting Jason Cambpell. I found it eerily similar how many fans thought it was nonsense, how Ramsey was the QB of the future, how Gibbs, Snyder, and Cerrato all staunchly denied Campbell was a target and defended Ramsey as the QB of the future... The Skins may not be able to get Cutler, but i have no doubt they are targeting him and/or looking at other alternatives to replace Campbell - as they should be. He's not the guy we need.
I wasn't aware we had a pro bowl receiver last year. Perhaps we're not watching the same team.

Can you at least try to leave things in context? I mean, what are you trying to say when you argue that a Cutler for Campbell and a first round pick is actually just Cutler for a first round pick? You are purely speculating that Campbell won't be here next year (2010). If you are predicting that, fine, just don't extrapolate that to the next level and say he has zero value in a trade that actually involves him.

Your argument has zero basis in reality. Read through it again. It's based on like four different unlikelyhoods/unsupported statements:

1) Campbell is a bad fit for our system
2) Anyone who makes one pro-bowl automatically becomes "proven."
3) Campbell has no trade value...let's trade him!
4) Cutler is a winner, despite all evidence to the contrary

And then there's the one false statement, that Campbell has a great supporting cast. Samuels is our best lineman, but he only played in 12 games last year, and about 7 of those, he was hurt. Cooley is our best offensive player, but he had a rough year last year. Portis had a heck of a half season, but I'm not sure how that helps the passing game. Sellers had a nice year receiving passes, but that only happened like 15 times all year.

Meanwhile, once you look deeper than pro-bowls, you have Moss and Randle El, who are very underwhelming as a receiving tandem, an offensive line that includes Rabach and Jansen, not to mention R. Thomas' horiffic year, started Jason Fabini for two weeks at RT, and started Stephon Heyer for 7 weeks, and oh yeah, had the worst set of third receivers in the entire NFL.
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