[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

It's amazing how much we as human being elevate the animal kingdom to human status. Nice to know he's a piece of shit to you and to wonder what you think about all those people in the Asian countries who catch, kill, cook, and eat dog in order to survive.

Trample provided a great response, but I'd like to respond also.

In case you didn't read my post thoroughly; "Anyone who can do the things he did for enjoyment is a piece of shit." I feel for people in poor countries who kill dogs to eat, but they aren't causing the dogs to suffer or be killed for their enjoyment, they're doing it for survival. I eat meat so I've got no problem with animals being killed for food, however they should be killed in a humane way, not made to suffer.

Do you think at any point in time there will be an "Insect Rights Organization"? One has to wonder about all those kids out there putting the black ants with the red ones. Heck on Youtube they have insect fighting match's. You all should check out the one with the Black widow and the scorpion.

This is one hell of a stretch between kids killing ants and a F-ing major dogfighting ring, give me a break

I just hope some of you all are not god fearing people. Simply put the whole Christianity thing is based off of Loving thy neighbor as you love yourself, and forgiveness.

I am a Christian. This has nothing to do with "loving thy neighbor" and "forgiveness". I hope Vick is truly remorseful for what he did and when he meets the good Lord, he's forgiven. But I'm not a naive idiot either, I don't believe for a second he's got an ounce of remorse. For him to have all the gifts God bestowed on him and then to be a piss-poor steward of those gifts, not to mention willfully and purposefully for "KICKS" cause such pain and suffering to God's creatures is inexcusable.

if it was soley monitary based and sport, although sick, then he's paid a heavier price then most people who harm animals. Lost job, lost pay, lost money from advertising, lost his house, spent time in jail. The majority of the cruelty to animal suspects simply pay a fine, jail time is plea bargined and usually only serve up to a yr.

Most people convicted of dogfighting aren't multi-millionaire NFL QBs.

Do I feel sorry for him. Only in the fact that he's being made out to be the example, but the example is a fassad. People go to court every working day across america as suspects of animal cruelty and get their hands slapped. They keep their jobs, their homes, and spend less time in jail if they get any. Simply cause his pretty little face is well known, and he has money(had money) they rail road him to say see we are tough on animal cruelty. I would have like to see how people would have reacted to him getting the same treatment as most....365 days jail-355 days suspended, 500 dollar fine, community services, 3 yrs good behavior and maybe counceling. Of course this would be for a first
time offender......wait that's what Vick is.

Vick's sentence was in-line for the most part with what others convicted of the same crimes get. The loss of job, home, $$$ had nothing to do with a court imposed sentence it was loss of sponsorships and having to pay back a signing bonus. Vick signed a contract which I'm sure had a personal conduct policy, he violated it and paid the price. F-him.

EDIT: Based on your own link (#3), Vick's sentence was in the mid-range of sentencing guidlines for Virginia.

I just don't get why you're defending this heartless moron. Do you understand what dogfighting is and what the animals are put through, not just in the fights but how they live and are handled? Could you stand by and watch a dogfight or kill a dog by drowning or smashing it on the floor after it has done what you trained it to do and it gave every ounce of energy it could for it's master but it's torn to shreds and still wanting to try to fight because it knows that's what it's master wants? That's what Vick was doing, again for FUN. Vick doesn't have a single ounce of compassion in him and he makes me F-ing sick.

EDIT: Anyone who does this make me F-ing sick, it's not just Vick.