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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Go depress folks somewhere else with this nonsense. Do you actually believe this stuff or are you just trying to get a rise out of people?

Reality:
1) Hogs are the greatest OL of all time consistently over a period of over 10 years, Bugel coached nine of those years.
2) May was the only 1st rounder, Grimm was a 3rd rounder, Jacoby was undrafted. Bugel's coaching played a very significant role in making that OL the Hogs. Last time I checked there were 5 positions on the OL, not to mention backups. 1st round or Pro Bowl caliber players at one position, does not make a solid OL.
3) (from wiki) Bugel's offensive line was also instrumental in the Oilers' stunning 1979 playoff upset over the high-powered San Diego Chargers, led by Dan Fouts. Working without Earl Campbell, Bugel's line, led by All-Pro tackle Leon Gray, made one-playoff-game heroes out of the likes of Rob Carpenter, Ronnie Coleman, Gifford Neilsen and Boobie Clark.
4) Here are some stats on Bugel's OLs. Outside of his stint in SD and 2007 & 2009 here (coming off the Spurrier debace he gets a pass for '04) his lines have been in the top third of the league in either Yard per Att or Sacks, or both.

...........Rank YPA Rank Sacks
Oilers 77 13 3.9 4 23
Oilers 78 11 4.1 1 17
Oilers 79 10 4.2 10 32
Oilers 80 1 4.6 5 27

Skins 81-89 Nuff said

Oak 95 9 4.2 17 36
Oak 96 1 4.8 24 45

SD 98 18 3.8 14 37
SD 99 30 3.0 22 46
SD 2000 31 3.0 26 53
SD 2001 21 3.9 6 27

Skins 04 28 3.7 19 38
Skins 05 10 4.2 12 31
Skins 06 8 4.5 3 19
Skins 07 24 3.8 13 29
Skins 08 7 4.4 23 38
Skins 09 29 3.9 28 46

Joe Bugel had a great career and deserves to be in the Ring of Honor. All Redskins fans should appreciate his contributions.

Put him in the Ring of Honor if that makes you feel good. He had one great run with OLs in the 1980s and had 4 Hall of Fame level talents play most of that time on his offensive lines. I'm not saying he is a bum or a failure; I am saying that his achievements have to be measured in terms of the contributions that others handed to him. That's all.

Given really sub-standard talent to work with in 2008 and 2009, the Redskins' OL under his tutelage and his motivation were sub-standard. If that isn't obvious to you, I don't know how else to explain a combined record of 12-20 with minimal offensive output.