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PHazard · 02-18-2010, 02:41 PM

Yes those are alot of the cut ups that i had seen before when scouting McCoy. I see his athleticism back there and his quick feet, but if i was looking for athleticism and quick feet id jump on the "TRADE FOR MICHAEL VICK" bandwagon.
How can you not say he has a weak arm? he throws alot of lob balls and even his intermediate throws dont have that ZIP on it that you'd, scratch that, that I'D like to see.
Yes ive seen his stats, BUT THEY ARE COLLEGE STATS! Wit Spread offenses ANY JOE SHMO can have good passing stats. Andre Ware? Timmy Chang? Graham Harrell? Danny Wuerffel? Akili Smith? Tim Couch? Tim Tebow? Colt Brennan? Any of these ring a bell? All put up huge numbers in college and then did terrible in the pros (jury is still out on Brennan and Tebow.) And McCoy was a heisman finalist? So what? Tim Tebow, Andre Ware, and Danny Wuerffel WON the heisman and Ware and Wuerffel were EPIC FAILS and Tebow is currently being called a project.
I understand that he has the current record for most wins by a QB in college history. But he got to start ALL 4 YEARS. Not everyone gets that chance. And they've had a dominant defense all 4 years. You cant contribute every win to a QB there are 53 other players that contribute to a teams success. But ill give him that, ur the face of the team so you get the blame when you lose and the glory when you win. Just saying, you dont always play with teams on your level when you're ranked as high as Texas usually is and when the playing field was more even, he struggled. In the NFL, its like that week in and week out.
i'm not supporting the LeFevour's, Kafka's, or Pike's of the world. It was just an example sayin i see more potential in guys who are rated far lower than he is. i'm not sayin we should draft one of them but they would cost FAR less therefore have less of a BUST potential.
We can agree to disagree, I just dont like McCoy as an NFL prospect. He's expensive (2nd round pick), and i dont see how he is an upgrade on our current 3rd string QB Colt Brennan. Brennan is ALREADY on our roster and didn't cost us a 2nd round pick. Seems foolish to me, with so many other needs, to spend a 2nd rounder on a Brennan clone (who IMO, isnt as good)

02-18-2010, 02:41 PM	#155
PHazard Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Originally Portsmouth, VA but now Ocala, FL Posts: 207	Re: The Mid Round QB fallacy Yes those are alot of the cut ups that i had seen before when scouting McCoy. I see his athleticism back there and his quick feet, but if i was looking for athleticism and quick feet id jump on the "TRADE FOR MICHAEL VICK" bandwagon. How can you not say he has a weak arm? he throws alot of lob balls and even his intermediate throws dont have that ZIP on it that you'd, scratch that, that I'D like to see. Yes ive seen his stats, BUT THEY ARE COLLEGE STATS! Wit Spread offenses ANY JOE SHMO can have good passing stats. Andre Ware? Timmy Chang? Graham Harrell? Danny Wuerffel? Akili Smith? Tim Couch? Tim Tebow? Colt Brennan? Any of these ring a bell? All put up huge numbers in college and then did terrible in the pros (jury is still out on Brennan and Tebow.) And McCoy was a heisman finalist? So what? Tim Tebow, Andre Ware, and Danny Wuerffel WON the heisman and Ware and Wuerffel were EPIC FAILS and Tebow is currently being called a project. I understand that he has the current record for most wins by a QB in college history. But he got to start ALL 4 YEARS. Not everyone gets that chance. And they've had a dominant defense all 4 years. You cant contribute every win to a QB there are 53 other players that contribute to a teams success. But ill give him that, ur the face of the team so you get the blame when you lose and the glory when you win. Just saying, you dont always play with teams on your level when you're ranked as high as Texas usually is and when the playing field was more even, he struggled. In the NFL, its like that week in and week out. i'm not supporting the LeFevour's, Kafka's, or Pike's of the world. It was just an example sayin i see more potential in guys who are rated far lower than he is. i'm not sayin we should draft one of them but they would cost FAR less therefore have less of a BUST potential. We can agree to disagree, I just dont like McCoy as an NFL prospect. He's expensive (2nd round pick), and i dont see how he is an upgrade on our current 3rd string QB Colt Brennan. Brennan is ALREADY on our roster and didn't cost us a 2nd round pick. Seems foolish to me, with so many other needs, to spend a 2nd rounder on a Brennan clone (who IMO, isnt as good) __________________ If "The Future is Now" why would we use our #4 Pick on a QB who will spend the 1st year on the bench?