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Originally Posted by Daseal
FD - I do believe that, one hundred percent. Part of healthcare is people having access to healthcare. We have good care in this country, but people having access to it is the issue. You saying that the World Health Organization is for 'everyone having healthcare'. No shit. The world health organization wants everyone to have health insurance and access to care?
The fact that you don't want everyone to have access to healthcare is more shocking. I love how people skirt the whole France issue that have a socialized setup that provides amazing healthcare to all of their residents. We're one of the very few developed nations without national healthcare coverage.
Ranking 37th — Measuring the Performance of the U.S. Health Care System | Health Care Reform Center
Take a look at this, and tell me that we're #1. We're lagging, severely in a lot of areas. The U.S. has the best health care system in the world
Instead of blindly saying "The US is better than everyone" for every single category. Try to look and see that we're lagging behind a lot of countries in a lot of areas. That's not to say this isn't a great country, but we need to constantly improve to stay on top.
I'm sick of seeing people bitch about making this country better. Is the system perfect, absolutely not. It has flaws. But it's interesting, we have no problem with tax hikes to pay for bombs that cost billions, yet taking care of our own people, people lose control. Holy crap, you might have to provide decent insurance for your employees?!?!?!?! If you can't afford it, shut your doors and go get a job for someone that can.
This is ridiculous. People on this site are always talking about how the US needs to stop taking care of every other country and take care of ourselves. This is a step in the right direction. As matty said earlier, what's not fair is 60% of all bankruptcies come not from poor financial planning, but needing a medical procedure. That, in my eyes, is complete bullshit.
We need much more reform than we have now. But I'll take this for a start. |
I can't speak for FD , but few of us think 1) the Fed should do nothing , 2) " we think the US is better than everyone " . I think most people would have liked a bill that would help people in need .... example , INS Co. not being able to cut coverage , to help people that have type 2 diabetes , MS, MD , Cancer or even need help from medical costs as a result from car/industrial accidents . If the bill were smaller and condenced to help with the greatest need/s , I think would have been better . If , and I stress , if this bill causes small business to cut payroll , large business to also cut jobs , it could make things worse ? If the care that the working middle class suffers at the expense of provideing for people who won't work , that is IMO , not fiar or right . As far as tax hikes for bombs , we have not raised taxes since Clinton in 92 , our taxe rates our much lower today than 30 years ago . France , they do have some great health care on many levels . France is at the moment , moving towards some of what looks like our policies , to pay for the HC in France
France Fights Universal Care's High Cost - WSJ.com....
The Health Care System Under French National Health Insurance: Lessons for Health Reform in the United States. I just hope/want the people who have worked their asses off for the past 20/30 years , to not have to sacrifice too much at the expense of lazy < and some people are > , not saying most . I also think many Americans , right or wrong do not have a ton of faith in Washington making good on promises ....we have been told for 40 years that spending more on ED/ Higher learning would cut the cost of education , costs have increased over 400 % since 1970 . We were also told that Tabacco legislation would lower HC costs , that also has not happened ......... maybe we get this right one day soon ..... we shall see ?