[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by Rainy Parade

thanks!

but seriously, you're reply was well researched and i realize that all of the ills of govt are the fault of both parties. do i prefer Obama's approach/philosophy, etc over Bush? sure. but no sense in arguing back in forth on a message board. we're not gonna change each other's mind.

so my "lie into war" was perhaps off topic or flippant.... but really. "everybody does it" and "technically this wasn't illegal or provable as such" is the defense for all this crap on both sides.

I hope the tea party wins and cut taxes some more.