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Originally Posted by GTripp0012
I don't think you're wrong. More short targets for VJ would mean more catches that fail to pick up first downs which would mean less value per play. I follow that logic completely: Jackson clearly benefits from the role Norv calls for him.
I don't necessarily think it reverses though. I don't think you could have Marshall play the role of Jackson in the Chargers offense and still have a top five passing offense, top five scoring offense, or necessarily have Marshall not actively hurting the offense. Now, the Miami Dolphins are betting two valuable second round picks and tens of millions of dollars that GTripp has no f-ing clue what he's talking about. That's...intimidating. But it's also not my loss if they are wrong.
And like you said, he's not quite done improving/refining. The veteran/aged Brandon Marshall is going to be a different player than the developing Marshall. Probably along the lines of a pure possession receiver.
My whole point all along was that I don't really think it is apples to apples, and if you were ever going to consider throwing a top draft pick at a veteran player, might as well make it a 27-year old who is at the top of his craft. There are ALWAYS good reasons to suspect that it's a bad idea to give up picks for players. There's a really good chance that giving up picks for players is always a losing proposition, and never a good idea. However, in the absence of this conclusion, Jackson is about as close to a sure-thing elite talent as it gets. And no one at his level (5+ WPA "wins" in the last two seasons) is ever on the trading block. Or at least not since Jared Allen was two seasons ago.
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I lol'd. That's signature worthy.
I guess we're almost in agreement, however I do think if SD used Marshall like they did VJ, they would have still had good results. He's not quite the physical specimen that VJ is, but he's an elite receiver who can go underneath and up top with success. Basically I think BM is a bit more a stud WR than you do.
Good discussion. I talked more football on this site today than I have in months. I'm so jacked for the season.