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Originally Posted by Daseal
Matty, first of all I certainly didn't write him off. I've said plenty of times he has three years, which is an acceptable time frame to get everything together. Like every other coach who comes in, 3 years, do you disagree with that. Just assume in three years we're still the bottom 1/4 of offenses in the league, will you still staunchly defend him?
The problem with 2004 was it WASN'T full of adjustments. What adjustments during the year did we make to improve the offense? The answer is nearly none. We'd find something that worked (zone blocking) then abandon it the next week. That's the scary part for me.
Did or didn't Gibbs win in a weakened league thanks to strike, etc? Did he or did he not out personel most other coaches? Not necessarily bad, but still interesting. As I said, it's not my argument to make because I don't have sufficient information to make those claims.
How is Coles a bad guy? You were yelling at me for telling him he needs surgery and all about him three weeks ago, what happened, Matty? He's still the same person, he's shown me nothing bad about his personallity. He asked to be released, players do this all the time, does it make them evil? Why should he help a team that threatened him right before he left, why not get his money from the Jets?
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So there were no adjustments for Gibbs coming back to the league after being away since '91?? He didn't have to adjust to the shorter play clock, new defenses, a team full of new players, a new owner, a new media that follows your every word, the salary cap, free agency, etc. I'd say those are a few adjustments he had to make.
As for him winning in a weakened league, how were the Redskins somehow not weakened as well? Like I said, you still have to win enough games to get into the playoffs in a strike year, and you still have to win games in January. Sorry but saying Gibbs is the most overrated coach ever is a pretty weak statement.
I've never said Coles is a good guy or a bad guy for that matter. I don't know him personally so I don't know if he's a saint or a jerk. I have heard that he's not the nicest guy when fans have met him in public, but that's just hearsay so I'm not going to judge him based on rumors. Frankly I don't care if he's a nice guy or not, that's really not the issue. All I know is he didn't want to be a Redskin any longer, so sorry if my support of him has disappeared.
However, based on his comments he seems to be more concerned with his personal stats over team accomplishments, and that's the kind of player I won't miss the least bit. I'd rather have a lesser talented WR who wants to be here than a more talented guy who's pouting over his stats. And I'm not even sure the difference in talent level between Moss and Coles is that significant. Yes Coles is the more accomplished player, but Moss is no slouch and has had some injury problems. When he's healthy he's arguably
more explosive than Coles.
As for me yelling at you about the surgery thing, I'm not sure what you're talking about or what your point is. I haven't changed my tune and said he now needs the surgery, have I?