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Old 04-07-2005, 11:04 PM   #29
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Re: Taylor, Moss Miss Redskins Workouts

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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon
Gmanc711:

Someone else here said they would not trade Reed for Taylor even up. I didn't say that. But since someone else bright it up, I thought I'd offer a different perspective on that idea. I agree that you can't compare Taylor to those other guys because they are the elite safties in the league now and Taylor is not. He might become one of them one of these days; but as of now he's not in their league.

Would I trade Roethlisberger for McNabb or Brady or Manning? Of course not. I never said that was even a remote possibliity. But if someone thinks it's a bad idea to trade Taylor for Reed even-up, they might also think one of those Roethlisberger trades is a good idea. I don't.

I agree that people CAN mature and grow up. The problem is that MOST people show signs of being in the process of doing that by the time they are 21 years old. Yes, there are some late-bloomers; I admit that. And you might want to think that just maybe there are some people who never reach a maturity level beyond a college-freshman who is rushing a frat on campus.

So tell me, what behavior has Sean Taylor exhibited since he was drafted by the Washington Redskins that leads you to believe that he is maturing and developing into a thoughtful and full human adult? Use Darrell Green as your example here. What has Taylor DONE to lead you to believe that sometime in the next 5 years he will evolve into someone who can play as well as Darrell Green on the field AND be as mature and solid a citizen as Darrell Green off the field. I can't wait to read your list of maturity indicators here.


Malcom:

If it isn't appropriate to blame someone for losing a game, then it is also never appropriate to credit an individual with a win. When Adam Viniteiri kicked field goals with virtually no time left to win Super Bowls, he did not win the game all by himself. But given the opportunity to win the game as opposed to losing it, he did something to make the Pats win the game.

John Elway is revered for his comebacks in the final two minutes of games. Remember "The Drive"? Did he do it himself? No. Could he have avoided the necessity to do it at all if he had scored more in the first 59 minutes of the game? Of course. But when it mattered, John Elway found a way to win games for his team instead of having them lose those same games.

There are hundreds of other examples I could use here, but I think you have the idea by now...

Now analyze what Sean Taylor did in Dallas II last year in this light. He had the chance to do something to assure a win; instead of doing what his assignment was, he got beat deep; that cost the Skins a win. When it came down to the end of the game and when it was make a play or go home with your head up your butt, his performance sent the Skins home with their heads up their butts.

Sure, it would never have come to that if Ramsey had thrown 9 TD passes and Portis had run for 400 yards and 5 rushing TDs earlier that day; but they didn't. Notwithstanding all those shortcomings by the offensive players that day, the Redskins were ahead with less than one minute to play and then - - what happened? Who "made the play" and who "took gas"?


For reasons that seem not to be important to the Sean Taylor Fan Club here, Joe Gibbs has made it clear that he really wants 100% participation in all the voluntary workouts this off-season. I guess that Joe Gibbs is doing that just to make himself a pain in the ass to the players because obviously it can't be all that important to ask these players to show up and work out in order to earn their salaries. He's doing that to annoy them, right?

So, with almost all of the physcially able players participating, the ones not participating stand out like a sore thumb. And can anyone here REALLY and TRULY be surprised that Sean Taylor is one of the no-shows? I have to admit that I am surprised that Santana Moss is also a no-show, but if I had to pick one starter from last year's team who would be absent, it would definitely have been Taylor - - from the time he ducked out of the NFL Rookie Seminar. I'm disappointed that he's not there but not the least bit surprised.
Let me just say that I don't agree with SC's assessment of Sean Taylor. I think he's quick to cast him aside and I wish he showed the patience with Taylor that he complains the Redskins' FO doesn't show with the franchise as a whole.

And usually I don't agree with Curmudgeon and his "keeping it real" views. That being said though, what he wrote is the way you're supposed to write a dissenting view. Most everyone here knows that but there are those of you.. ...who don't get it.

"All you idiot assclowns on this site can keep boning your Sean Taylor bobblehead" is not an example of a good retort that's going to earn you any respect on this site.

Sorry, I know it's off-topic but I figured it was a good time to express it. Hopefully those of you it applies to... ...are reading this thread and understand.
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