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Originally Posted by Mattyk72
It's the old chicken or the egg debate...
Some people think we didn't go downfield last year simply because Gibbs choose not to. Personally I find that a little hard to believe and I think there are a multitude of reasons behind the scenes that aren't always very obvious.
In Gibbs first go round, he was always a deep strike guy. Rypien used to throw bombs all over the place. So why would he all of a sudden pull in the reins and shorten the field? Could it have been due to some other circumstances like a shaky OL and Gibbs' adjustment period to today's attacking-style NFL defenses?
How about a new system and the adjustment period that goes along with that, especially for the QBs. How about our WRs? Gardner isn't a serious deep threat, and Coles toe has obviously effected his game. We can argue all we want whether the WRs have been upgraded, but if you're talking about pure speed, then yes we did upgrade with Moss and Patten.
I won't deny Gibbs himself was also to blame, but at the same time there isn't another coach I trust more to fix this offense. Gibbs will get it done, if he doesn't it won't be for a lack of effort... and that's a lot more than we can say about you know who.
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A-friggin-men. Well said, Matty.
Daseal, I flat out disagree with your assessment of our WRs. Gardner would make a decent situational #3 (as long as the situation wasn't one where a crucial first-down catch was necessary). He's NOT a good #2. You can't look at his stats for the whole picture, his stats line does not show DROPS. He is not dependable enough, too inconsistent.
Coles is good, but he's not the deep threat we need with a bum toe, he can't get downfield.
If you're asking for deep threats in a passing game, I can't see how you'd be displeased with our current WRs.
But you and I have argued all these points before, it gets us nowhere. Basically your whole argument boils down to: last year Gibbs had the WRs to get it done, he just didn't call the right plays. Now this year, he doesn't have the WRs to get it done in the deep passing game. Basically, everything the guy does you think is retarded. And then on the other hand, you're saying you think he'll be successful in three years. I don't get it.