[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Redskin Rat, once again the only problem is that you refuse to admit when you are wrong.

So at least I'm consistent, right?
Are you even reading my rebuttals or is your bias just clouding your ability to look at anyone else’s opinion as anything other than invalid?

Originally Posted by Lotus

Let's leaving aside other examples which only serve to confuse you

I'm far from confused, sweetie.....

Originally Posted by Lotus

and focus on just one example. Turkey has been both democratic and Islamic for 88 years. Therefore your statement that there are no examples of the compatibility of Islam and democracy has an 88 year track record of being wrong. IT IS JUST THAT SIMPLE.

As I previously stated 'despite' islam. There has been a ongoing and aggressive attempt at de-democratizing Turkey halted only by the military/secular powers. To argue otherwise is to either be so ignorant of the situation that your opinion should not be taken seriously or that it's a deliberate attempt at misinformation.

Originally Posted by Lotus

Intelligent conversation involves changing one's notion to fit the evidence. Yet again and again you fit the evidence to meet you preconceived notions.

Until I agree with your position I doubt that you'd see my side as intelligent. See my next statement.

Originally Posted by Lotus

There is no further point in my arguing with someone who ignores examples which do not fit their preconceived notions. There is no further point in my arguing with someone who uses outdated concepts and outdated statistics. But most of all, there is no further point in my arguing with someone who refuses to admit when they are patently mistaken.

Classic argument from an 'educator', my sister-in-law pulls that shit all the time when she's losing her position.

Originally Posted by Lotus

The rest of this thread is full of posters who have intelligent things to say.

Sure.......<rolls_eyes>

Originally Posted by Lotus

I don't always agree with them

Most of us (judging by this forum) can barely agree on how to support our team!

Originally Posted by Lotus

.... but at least they are engaging in good-faith intelligent conversation. I see no point in dragging that conversation down by responding to you further.

Then don't, you've failed at every opportunity to actually SUBSTANTIATE your position. Just telling me you're right isn't the kind of evidence I'll accept.

Originally Posted by Lotus

As one last note, once again you have launched a personal attack against me rather than admit that you are mistaken. That is a pretty sucky thing to do. It conversation with you less than pointless.

Personal attack? Saying (tongue-n-cheek) that you are part of the problem? You CAN'T be THAT sensitive.......

'Sucky'.......**** sake!