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Originally Posted by NC_Skins
Absolutely no way. Again, let's look at the defenses. Having a top 5 defense compared to having a bottom 5 defense. It's not even REMOTELY in the same ball park.
Again. The cold hard facts that the Patriots go 11-5 WITHOUT Brady solidifies my argument and pretty much makes yours invalid. The fact the Colts go from a 10-6 playoff team to the #1 draft pick in the NFL also backs up that case.
Hey guys, I guess Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson are better QBs than Dan Marino!!! That's pretty much the type of argument you are using.
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Actually going back to the Patriots first SB under Brady in 2001 here's how the teams actually compare defense wise:
Patriots: 24th*, 23rd, 7th*, 9th*, 26th, 4th*, 6th, 10th, 11th, 25th, & 31st
Colts: 29th, 8th, 11th, 29th, 11th, 21st*, 3rd, 11th, 18th, 20th, & 25th
As you can see the only time in the last 11 years the Patriots were an actual top 5 defense like u keep harping on, was when they lost to the Giants in SB XLII.
Just the fact you're trying to compare, even if only sarcasticly, what Brady has done to the likes of Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson is a joke and IMO invalidates any argument you could even begin to piece together haha. Those 2 won rings 100% because of their defenses in the years the Bucs and Ravens won and sometimes in spite of their play(Bucs #1 def vs 24th off & Ravens #2 def vs 16th off) Whereas the 3 Superbowl championships of the Patriots just don't happen without Brady at the helm as 2 of them required him to lead them on game winning drives.
Also what happened with that 11-5 Patriots team when Brady went down? Oh that's right they didn't even make the playoffs...