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Old 02-11-2012, 11:45 PM   #15
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Re: Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice

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Originally Posted by SBXVII View Post
Robert Griffin III, Baylor, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

They say a lot of great things about him and his accuracy and strength but...

Will KS expect him to roll out more or expect him to stay in the pocket like he did a more mobile Beck? I'd expect stay in the pocket.
When Beck was in Kyle called more roll outs.
You admit that Griffin is mobile therefore why would you expect Kyle to keep Griffin in the pocket?
QB movement plays long been a staple of Mike Shanahan's offense.
Cutler, Plummer, Elway and Young all made tons of plays off Making boot-action and sprint-out movement passes.


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Now I'll admit I took only the negative comments and posted them........So I'm pointing out his flaws only because as some would make it sound ... he has none and he's a franchise QB because of it or will be.
Scouts are all gonna have their opinions about the QB prospects.
Even though you admit to only posting the negatives and rationalize your reason for doing so your post still comes off as a hatchet job.
And any scouting opinion you give about any prospect can appear negative if you cut+paste only the negative comments and use those comments to steer your opinion of the prospect.

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No my point is that some of these faults are the basis for our scheme which he supposedly fits into.
No QBs faults lend themselves towards being a fit into any scheme and every QB has faults.
But forming an opinion or determining scheme fit based only a prospects faults is imo a poor way to make an evaluation.

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Originally Posted by Bill Walsh
"I instructed everyone scouting that I wanted to know what the redeeming quality is that this person has that will help us win," "Don't tell me what he can't do. Tell me what he can do."
However Griffin skillset is a direct fit for our offense or any other.

I'm sure you read this:

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Originally Posted by good stuff about Griffin
Accuracy: A natural passer with very good accuracy and ball placement, especially on the run. Has very good downfield touch with beautiful deep ball accuracy. Impressive feel on bucket and long throws.

Setup/Release: Has a quick release and does a nice job with play fakes. Gutsy and fearless, standing tall in the pocket even when he knows the hit is coming.

Reading Defenses: Sees the entire field and works through his progressions, manipulating the pocket and keeping his eyes downfield.

On the Move: An elite athlete with quick feet and superior speed ? smooth, flexible and leggy. Has magic escapability and adds an extra dimension with his legs. Makes something out of nothing, keeping defenders off balance and forcing poor angles because of his jets. Very good patience, vision and instincts as a runner with football toughness ? more than simply a track athlete.

Intangibles: Exudes the natural leadership and confidence on the field that teammates respond to and follow. Very tough-minded and not afraid to take chances. Never allows himself to get too high or too low and the situation never seems too much. A determined passer ? thrower first and runner second. Very smart in the classroom and his intelligence translates well to the field ? graduated from Baylor in Dec. 2010 with a degree in political science and is currently working on his master?s degree. He possesses ?wow? playmaking ability with a clutch gene. Plays poised and in control late in games and is comfortable in the ?big? moment. Griffin is a team-first guy and is highly competitive. Winner and leads by example. Has off-the-chart intangibles and coaches rave about his work ethic, practice habits and overall character. Has very good starting experience as a three-year starter (40 career starts) and was the youngest starting quarterback in college football in 2008. Highly productive at the college level and set or tied 54 school records at Baylor and several other NCAA marks ? one of only three players in college football history to throw for 10,000+ passing yds and rush for 2,000+ yds in his career (Dan LeFevour, Colin Kaepernick). In 2011, Griffin led the Bears to their first bowl win since 1992 and was the first Heisman Trophy winner from Baylor since 1963. He set several records in track ? in both high school and college. Is he fully committed to football? (Olympics, track, academics)
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Originally Posted by Bill Walsh
The single trait that separates great quarterbacks from good quarterbacks is the ability to make the great, spontaneous decision, especially at a crucial time. The clock is running down and your team is five points behind. The play that was called has broken down and 22 players are moving in almost unpredictable directions all over the field.

This is where the great quarterback uses his experience, vision, mobility and what we will call spontaneous genius. He makes something good happen. This, of course, is what we saw in Joe Montana when he pulled out those dramatic victories for Notre Dame.

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