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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Ok what do you want me to say. There is your proof that Richardson wanted him more than Cam.

There is rumor according to Casserly that Richardson called Luck in January and said that he would have drafted Luck if he came out.
But on its face its at a minimum a half-truth because in January teams do not know who they are gonna draft yet because the draft evaluation process is in its infancy at that point for all the reason I mentioned in the previous thread never mind that Richardson isn't even an owner/GM like Jerruh Jones he's not the Panthers draft day decision maker.
I'm certain that Luck was a prospect they would have considered taking but no team not except maybe the Raiders would already have their mind made about who they're drafting in January.

I remember them not starting to take Cam seriously as a candidate until about a month away from draft time. As great of a college season Cam had and as good of a rookie season Cam had he wasn't even known nor talked about until his 3rd game his junior year after being kicked off of florida and in community college.

Who is them?
NFL teams were certainly looking at the film from Blinn JuCo where Cam won a national title.

Luck has been talked about as the next great QB the highest grade for a QB or player for that matter, since Peyton Manning. Your saying you'd take Cam ahead of Luck before you even saw Cam play in the NFL? Thats great and crazy, and thats your opinion.

Yes and its not as crazy as you think, especially in light of Cam's rookie season.

I'm not looking at the prospects based on hype or draft media group think.
I look at the prospect from the skills you can measure from actually watching them play: arm strength, timing, accuracy, efficiency, size, playmaking etc...

This subject really shouldn't be touched until Luck has played a whole rookie year so we can see how good he will be and compared to Cam. It goes as potential. I'd take Luck over Griffin and Cam because of the known quality and potential. Sure Cam and RG3 have higher potential, because they didn't play in pro style offenses (or played one year like Cam)

Well, we're comparing them as prospects without the benefit of Cam's rookie season.
But, even if you wait and compare their rookie years based on production and not talent do you really think RGIII (as much as I would love him too) or Luck are gonna have rookie season's that rival Cam's?

And you kinda contradict yourself above.
You say you would take Luck over Griff and Cam because of known quality and potential.
But (a) Cam at this stage is more of a known quantity then Luck
(b) you say in the very next sentence that Cam and Griff have higher potential
(c) Cam played more then 1 year of college football

but when large amounts of scouts say Andrew is the next Peyton Manning, a QB who I believe is the best of all time, I'm going to take him over Cam and Robert.

Again we don't know what scouts are saying because we don't have access to their knowledge.
Scouts, gms and team exec are rarely speak about their draft intel and when they do speak they're hardly ever forthright.
So I don't know where you get the idea that we know what scouts are saying.
We only 'know' what draft media are saying and keep in mind this is the same draft media that said Gabbert was better then Newton and Locker the same draft media that said that had Jimmy Clausen just behind or even ahead of Sam Bradford as a first talent the same draft media that considered UDFA Jevan Snead a draftable QB prospect with a high grade 1-3 round grade?

BTW-You never answered my question, and I'm not asking for the draft media opinion of Luck is the next Peyton Manning.
My question is what does Luck do better then Cam or Griff from a draftable NFL skillset comparison?