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BigSKINBauer · 07-09-2005, 07:32 AM

wolfe i definatley agree with big ben i mean he had a great supporting cast and for some reason it felt as if the steelers always FOUND a way to win. Yah that is great but it was always something little and pissed me off, i like underdog teams and i always want winning teams to lose some. Some examples, that game against Jacksonville if anyone remembers Cowher(prolly not right spelling) killing the clock at 18 seconds to kick a field goal to take the lead, he could have wasted more time and then jags come back to kick a long field goal like 60 yards, and they barely missed it. I thought that was a stupid coaching move but the media made it sound like when roethlisburger spiked the ball he was playing smart and vetern football. Some other games they could have lost were the cowboys and Jets in playoffs and ofcourse us.
Roethlisburger had ALL the help he could ask for on Defense and they ran the ball more than anyother team in league i believe. But to his credit he did what he was supposed to when he was supposed to but he was in a great possition. Also has any QB in history not made the probowl with 14 wins, I think he started 13 and team won 15.

Vick- in a sense he is overrated but in a sense he is not. See no one thinks of him as a great thrower or great "traditional" QB. We think of him as exiting, and fun to watch, great on his feet, and the fastest QB in history. IN my opinion someone has to MISUNDERSTOOD to be overrated, I think he gets all the credit for being a great runner and it is deserved. But also he gets the deserving discredit of being a bad passer. People buy his shoes because they want to be like him, they want to be fast. He is not the best QB in the league or in my opinion even top 5, no order Mcnabb, Brady, Manning, Culpepper, Farve(still the man but he getting to old for this)

Vick accounted for 902 yards on the ground and 2313 in the air a nice 3215 yards TOTAL. but 14 Qbs in the league threw for more than that many yards(3215 VIck's total), so right now i see no reason for him being in the HOF as of now. culpepper threw for more than 1500 yards more than vicks TOTAL. Kerry collins and Testeverde both got more than 3200 yards. That shows Vick isn't GOD. He is the Most Valuable Player to that team more so than anyother player to any team. But being a great QB= OVERRATED!

07-09-2005, 07:32 AM	#100
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 37 Posts: 5,688	Re: Most Overrated NFL Player? wolfe i definatley agree with big ben i mean he had a great supporting cast and for some reason it felt as if the steelers always FOUND a way to win. Yah that is great but it was always something little and pissed me off, i like underdog teams and i always want winning teams to lose some. Some examples, that game against Jacksonville if anyone remembers Cowher(prolly not right spelling) killing the clock at 18 seconds to kick a field goal to take the lead, he could have wasted more time and then jags come back to kick a long field goal like 60 yards, and they barely missed it. I thought that was a stupid coaching move but the media made it sound like when roethlisburger spiked the ball he was playing smart and vetern football. Some other games they could have lost were the cowboys and Jets in playoffs and ofcourse us. Roethlisburger had ALL the help he could ask for on Defense and they ran the ball more than anyother team in league i believe. But to his credit he did what he was supposed to when he was supposed to but he was in a great possition. Also has any QB in history not made the probowl with 14 wins, I think he started 13 and team won 15. Vick- in a sense he is overrated but in a sense he is not. See no one thinks of him as a great thrower or great "traditional" QB. We think of him as exiting, and fun to watch, great on his feet, and the fastest QB in history. IN my opinion someone has to MISUNDERSTOOD to be overrated, I think he gets all the credit for being a great runner and it is deserved. But also he gets the deserving discredit of being a bad passer. People buy his shoes because they want to be like him, they want to be fast. He is not the best QB in the league or in my opinion even top 5, no order Mcnabb, Brady, Manning, Culpepper, Farve(still the man but he getting to old for this) Vick accounted for 902 yards on the ground and 2313 in the air a nice 3215 yards TOTAL. but 14 Qbs in the league threw for more than that many yards(3215 VIck's total), so right now i see no reason for him being in the HOF as of now. culpepper threw for more than 1500 yards more than vicks TOTAL. Kerry collins and Testeverde both got more than 3200 yards. That shows Vick isn't GOD. He is the Most Valuable Player to that team more so than anyother player to any team. But being a great QB= OVERRATED!