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Old 05-12-2012, 06:05 PM   #340
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Re: Kirk Cousins pick 4.7

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Originally Posted by warriorzpath View Post
Even with that difference, the comparison is even more telling. Because when you adjust accordingly with respective eras, their completion% is about even. 56% to 60% for Elway. So like I was saying, you can try to play with the stats with however you want, but sometimes it's just plain bs. So how do you determine when they are complete bs without just plain simple watching them? And even then, it's the eye of the beholder thing in some cases.
You don't just determine it unless you have some concept of how to responsibly use statistics to back a point. The point doesn't have to be right 100% of the time, but it has to be defensible 100% of the time.

Jason Campbell actually did complete a higher percentage of his passes over the course of his career (to date) than John Elway did. That is a real thing that happened. It is not a statistical illusion.

What it isn't is a fair thing to hold against the career of John Elway, because that would lack context and miss about 14 critical points in terms of football analysis.

Stats are just records of events. The bs'ers you refer to are typically more human.
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