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Originally Posted by NC_Skins
What good is a cart blanche when you have nobody worth spending it on? Do tell, what moves could he have made his first year seeing the league was bogged down with restricted free agents? Oh, my guess is you conveniently left that fact out of your observation. Also forgot about the whole lockout thing as well I'm sure.
His second year, what QB would you have brought into the fold? The Vince Young that so many people clamored for? Kyle Orton? The guy who was benched for a shitty Tim Tebow? What FA QB would have been better than Rex. Mind you, this would have been a new offense for whatever QB he brought in.
So because he publicly vouched for Grossman and Beck, you hold him to that?... What the **** did you expect him to say man? Uhh, yeah, guys, Rex and Beck are totally garbage, but I have to ride them out until I find something better in the draft this upcoming year. /faceplam
I suggest you study up on coach speak my friend. It'll save you a lot of trouble in the future. Here are the cliff-notes on coach speak. If he says it, and does it. It's true. If he says it, and goes in the opposite direction, he was lying his ass off.
What he said: I personally vouch for Rex and Beck as our starting QB.
What he does: Following year trades historic amount of picks to move up in draft. (he was lying)
What he says: I can't wait to wait to get to work with Jason Campbell.
What he does: Trades Jason Campbell for a future 4th rounder. (he was lying)
I'm not sure what the hell fans were expecting the man to do the previous two years when the options were all but limited to him. The moves he could make, he did.
His one glaring mistake was the McNabb trade. Trying to think you can teach a old dog a new trick, and thinking he could motivate a lazy person was stupid. Instead of keeping with him though as Vinny would have, he traded him and at least got something back for him.
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So are you saying if Rex, or Beck, respectively, had surpassed everyones wildest expectations, and streaked us into the playoffs last season we would be in the exact same position we are now? We still would have given up the draft picks. We still would have drafted RG3/Tannehill, and that guy would still be the starting QB. Or are you saying Mike knew in the beginning of the season that these guys were doomed to fail, did nothing to correct the problem purposefully, so we would find ourselves in a position where we could potentially move up to choose either Luck, or a Qb who was barely on the radar at the time. You're right about the Jason Campbell thing, obvious lie, but as for the rest I have to believe that situation dictates outcome. And it's very easy to say everything that has happened is according to plan, when your aim is to justify everything retrospectively. So either Mike is clairvoyant in knowing we would find a trade partner that would put him in the perfect position to draft a system oriented guy, or he manipulated the season negatively through his personnel decisions in order to put himself in a position where he could choose a early first round QB.
Staking your reputation on someone versus a coaches vote of confindence are two extremely different dictums in my opinion. He might have endorsed those guys hoping for the best, and planning for the worst, but if we're using hindsight to define our positions I'll say what QB, even being in a new system, wouldn't have been better than Grossman. The only one I'm seeing on the list is Sam Bradford, and he was injured most of the year. So Orton, sure. Young, ok. Ryan Mallett in the mid rounds, let's give him a go. Tavaris Jackson, suit him up. Matt Moore. Tyrod Taylor, throw them in the mix. And for as bad as Tebow was(72.9), he still wasn't as bad as Rex(72.4).
This prevailing theme that all Mike's moves, execpt one, are justified, and were absolutely necessary, leaving us no other alternative, is absurd. And we're just talking QBs.