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Old 08-08-2012, 02:45 PM   #11
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Re: 2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)

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- ObamaCare isn't a socialist policy?
- U.S. ownership in GM isn't a socialist policy (read $ 23B redistribution of taxpayer dollars to a union)?
As oppose to what? Letting them go out of business? Giving them 25 billion like Bush did without any strings attached? TARP and the Bank Bail out? Socialism is only socialism when the other guy is doing it.


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- Under ObamaCare the Department of Education took control of the student loan program thereby eliminating their partnership with banks. Before this happened banks such as Citi and Bank of America provided federal loans, private loans, what have you. Now the government provides loans and banks are no longer able to offer any type of loan to students as a result. This isn't socialist?
As oppose to what? Getting out of the lending business all together? Giving low interest guaranteed loans to the Banks and letting them just turn around and lend it to students at higher rate? What is more socialistic, subsidizing the middlemen banks or students?

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- FCC Net Neutrality rules aren't socialist? As stated by Robert McChesney, founder of Free Press, a group with deep ties to the Obama administration, the FCC, and the FTC, “At the moment, the battle over network neutrality is not to completely eliminate the telephone and cable companies. We are not at that point yet. But the ultimate goal is to get rid of the media capitalists in the phone and cable companies and to divest them from control.”
He also said, "Our struggle to make the Internet into a public utility conflicts with the interests of telephone and cable firms. So it is a tough fight, but a very important one."
As oppose to what? Getting the government out of regulating the internet whose development they bankrolled and was founded on social ownership and cooperative management principles? We should let companies discriminately toll the internet? Are we to pay ISPs for our internet service and for individual websites that are successful at attracting consumers.


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