Does Brandon Lloyd REALLY deserve all this hate?

[CPAlltheWay012]

Ok..before i get all the criticism think about some of these things:

1. It's only his second year with the Redskins and alot of players take a bit of time to transition from one team to another.

2. Despite low production in his receiving yards as of last year, Lloyd was overlooked on his blocking skills...I can recall countless times when he threw a block that set up a big play for his teamates.. eg. Clinton Portis @ Home Dallas Game; Portis Big Reception @ Texans; 1st Santana Moss Reception for TD playing Jaguars and etc.. they ARE there if you look..

3. I know that alot of the coaches and players talked about how much time and effort he put in this offseason in his workouts to gain weight and produce this season...

4. It seems like all the players seem to genuinly "like" Brandon as if he's been accepted as one of the guys. It doesnt sound like they are just saying that but more as if they are sincere and want him to succeed, and not as the "Locker Room Cancer" that hes been labeled.

5. The responses from alot of the fans make me believe that people think Lloyd is a "bad" guy but if you look at him on the sidelines hes jumping around staying positive; hes doing charity work (there was that whole thing on NFL total access portraying his stuff) and it leads me to believe that the interpretations of this guy are wrong.

Sure, his production has dropped alot this year.. but when has been in the game alot? He's had two long balls that were poorly thrown by Campbell in his direction...(one in the Miami game which was intercepted & the other overthrown off his fingertips in the Packers game) Honestly, they need to just put him in BETTER situations where he can be more productive rather than keep him on the sidelines...

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by CPAlltheWay012

Ok..before i get all the criticism think about some of these things:

1. It's only his second year with the Redskins and alot of players take a bit of time to transition from one team to another.

2. Despite low production in his receiving yards as of last year, Lloyd was overlooked on his blocking skills...I can recall countless times when he threw a block that set up a big play for his teamates.. eg. Clinton Portis @ Home Dallas Game; Portis Big Reception @ Texans; 1st Santana Moss Reception for TD playing Jaguars and etc.. they ARE there if you look..

3. I know that alot of the coaches and players talked about how much time and effort he put in this offseason in his workouts to gain weight and produce this season...

4. It seems like all the players seem to genuinly "like" Brandon as if he's been accepted as one of the guys. It doesnt sound like they are just saying that but more as if they are sincere and want him to succeed, and not as the "Locker Room Cancer" that hes been labeled.

5. The responses from alot of the fans make me believe that people think Lloyd is a "bad" guy but if you look at him on the sidelines hes jumping around staying positive; hes doing charity work (there was that whole thing on NFL total access portraying his stuff) and it leads me to believe that the interpretations of this guy are wrong.

Sure, his production has dropped alot this year.. but when has been in the game alot? He's had two long balls that were poorly thrown by Campbell in his direction...(one in the Miami game which was intercepted & the other overthrown off his fingertips in the Packers game) Honestly, they need to just put him in BETTER situations where he can be more productive rather than keep him on the sidelines...

1) Its his second year with the skins but it's his 5th season in the NFL. He should know how to catch a ball by his 5th season. Yet time after time this guy drops passes. He was known for spectacular catches in SF but all of a sudden his hands go MIA? Get out of here.

2) While WRs are expected to block on runs, that's not his job. His job is to go out there and catch. CP can throw a bad ass block, but he can also do his job and run when it's expected of him. Brandon Lloyd can't do shit even when given the opportunity.

3) Offseason is good. But when you show up at a team meeting late and then leave and then don't even show up to the damn away game. You're obviously showing you don't give a shit about the team. The guy doesn't even suit up for some games.

4) I don't think anyone is gonna outright say they hate the guy in public. That would look awful for people to get the perception that things in the locker room aren't meshing well. For the sake of the team and for keeping things light they are gonna point out his positives and not say anything bad about the guy.

5) Frankly if you're the damn benchwarmer on a team, you need to be active and stay positive for the team. They teach you that shit in high school. I never played varsity sports, but if the team was being productive and out there playing their asses off, my coach would be damned if you're not pumped up cheering them on.

Brandon Lloyd isn't a TERRIBLE person, he's probably an alright guy. But when it comes to being focused on work and the team, the dude's a douche. Of course he's only been thrown to twice, he hasn't done anything all year. I'd be surprised if he actually studied tape after games and has done anything to better himself as a player prior to the regular season. You say they need to put him in better situations? How is coaching supposed to do that? Brandon Lloyd needs to put Brandon Lloyd in better situations. If he wants to catch the ball, get out there, get open and catch the ball. I'm tired of coddling this guy. If he wants to play so bad, prove it.

[Lady Brave]

^ What she said.




In before the close...

[SFREDSKIN]

We sure are desperate at the WR position to give this clown another chance. This better be his last chance whether he makes a lot of money or not. In the pre-cap days he would have been gone last year.

[rypper11]

Good argument. However, the same things could be said for Thrash who makes 1/5 of what Lloyd does. And Thrash is an excellent special teamer and I've never seen Lloyd on any ST group.
And the "effort" he showed on the interception against Miami is enough for me to hope he remains inactive for the rest of the year.

[SmootSmack]

There probably won't be a better response than DynamiteRave's, we should probably lock this thread down

[Crazyhorse1]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

1) Its his second year with the skins but it's his 5th season in the NFL. He should know how to catch a ball by his 5th season. Yet time after time this guy drops passes. He was known for spectacular catches in SF but all of a sudden his hands go MIA? Get out of here.

2) While WRs are expected to block on runs, that's not his job. His job is to go out there and catch. CP can throw a bad ass block, but he can also do his job and run when it's expected of him. Brandon Lloyd can't do shit even when given the opportunity.

3) Offseason is good. But when you show up at a team meeting late and then leave and then don't even show up to the damn away game. You're obviously showing you don't give a shit about the team. The guy doesn't even suit up for some games.





4) I don't think anyone is gonna outright say they hate the guy in public. That would look awful for people to get the perception that things in the locker room aren't meshing well. For the sake of the team and for keeping things light they are gonna point out his positives and not say anything bad about the guy.

5) Frankly if you're the damn benchwarmer on a team, you need to be active and stay positive for the team. They teach you that shit in high school. I never played varsity sports, but if the team was being productive and out there playing their asses off, my coach would be damned if you're not pumped up cheering them on.

Brandon Lloyd isn't a TERRIBLE person, he's probably an alright guy. But when it comes to being focused on work and the team, the dude's a douche. Of course he's only been thrown to twice, he hasn't done anything all year. I'd be surprised if he actually studied tape after games and has done anything to better himself as a player prior to the regular season. You say they need to put him in better situations? How is coaching supposed to do that? Brandon Lloyd needs to put Brandon Lloyd in better situations. If he wants to catch the ball, get out there, get open and catch the ball. I'm tired of coddling this guy. If he wants to play so bad, prove it.

Can't prove anything if you don't play. I'm not a Lloyd fan but I'm a fan of reality, in some instances. Lloyd simply hasn't dropped pass after pass, as you say. He's about the only one who hasn't. I don't even recall him dropping a single pass this year. Can you refresh my memory or explain why you say he has?

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Crazyhorse1

Can't prove anything if you don't play. I'm not a Lloyd fan but I'm a fan of reality, in some instances. Lloyd simply hasn't dropped pass after pass, as you say. He's about the only one who hasn't. I don't even recall him dropping a single pass this year. Can you refresh my memory or explain why you say he has?

If he's so spectacular please tell me why he's not playing. He had a lackluster year last year, and obviously has been doing something wrong this year to keep his ass benched.

[Campbell17]

He deserves a break, he hasn't had a chance to do anything yet. Give him time to cool off, a chance to prove himself, and viola, back to an ok receiver.

[DynamiteRave]

The guy's in his 5th season! 5 years.

Campbell's only STARTING this year and you can tell the guy's got talent. Both Lloyd and Campbell have had equal amount of time to study and get better. They're both studying the same plays, and SHOULD be putting in about the same amount of time to better themselves. The only difference is one guy's throwing. And the other guy's catching. Yet one guy is out there throwing balls Sunday in and Sunday out. Yet where's the other guy? Hmmm...

[Schneed10]

Yes, he does deserve the hate.

He doesn't go over the middle. He doesn't practice hard. He misses meetings. He doesn't put in the time to learn how to run routes well.

See a trend? The guy doesn't care.

[PFunk26]

One thing I found interesting is they did call a play for him in the pats game, threw him a wr screen, kinda thought he might get more of a chance after that then this whole incident, I think this was the last straw

[SmootSmack]

More importantly, does he deserve so many threads dedicated just to him?

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

what has he done to deserve any love????

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by Campbell17

He deserves a break, he hasn't had a chance to do anything yet. Give him time to cool off, a chance to prove himself, and viola, back to an ok receiver.

So you are saying you'd pay an ok reciever a $10 million dollar bonus? That is not a good cap move if you ask me.