Not bashing LaVar, but where was he?

memphisskin · 09-29-2004, 12:12 PM

Do you think LaVar being up in the pressbox early in the game had any ill effect on the defense? I saw a shot of him up in the pressbox, not sure if it was the owners box or not, but he's the leader of the defense and I think his emotion is contagious and sets the tone. I didn't see any shots of him on the sidelines, I want him down there encouraging guys, challenging his teammates, and helping guys. Maybe he did, but I didn't see it. Think Ray Lewis would be sitting in a press box if he couldn't play?

Bozzy · 09-29-2004, 01:00 PM

I think it's mearly trivial where an injured player sits to watch the game. Who says he cannot cheer the team by sitting with the owner?

Maybe Snyder had a guest who wanted to meet LaVar and invited LaVar up there. Since he was injured and all.

LadyT · 09-29-2004, 01:07 PM

I think Le Varr belonged on the field with his teammates, not up in the owner's box. It sends the wrong message to the team - that Le Varr is somehow one of the owner's favorites and deserving of special treatment.

I remember the same things being done for Deion, when he was here. There were reports that Snyder flew him on his personal jet and other similar stories.

The team can only be successful if all players consider themselves equally important to the team's success. Coaches and the owner cannot show favoritism or you risk destroying the subtle chemistry that makes a team a champion.

I love Le Varr as a player, but sometimes I think he values himself way too much. He said on the John Thompson show on Monday that he believes, had he played, that he would have been the difference. He might well be right, but that's not something you boast about in public.

cpayne5 · 09-29-2004, 01:13 PM

Maybe he really isn't supposed to be walking on his knee at all, and that's why he was offered a seat in the box. Maybe the coaches told him to view the game from up there so that he could see what the defense is/ needs to be doing. It's not right to call him out on something that we know nothing about.

SUNRA · 09-29-2004, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by memphisskin

Do you think LaVar being up in the pressbox early in the game had any ill effect on the defense? I saw a shot of him up in the pressbox, not sure if it was the owners box or not, but he's the leader of the defense and I think his emotion is contagious and sets the tone. I didn't see any shots of him on the sidelines, I want him down there encouraging guys, challenging his teammates, and helping guys. Maybe he did, but I didn't see it. Think Ray Lewis would be sitting in a press box if he couldn't play?

I think nit picking about where Lavar was or wasn't is irrevelant. I'm sure had we won you wouldn't have posted this thread. Lavar wasn't the reason we lost this game nor was his absence greatly missed. Let's not become so ingrossed with finding a scapegoat for our shortcomings. Some of us as fans sometimes demand too much of the players while forgeting that these are grown ass men who do not enjoy sitting on the sidelines when they have the desire to go out there even if it further damages their injuries. Come on by now, you should not be questioning where Lavar 's loyalty is with regard to his teammates. Breath. :cheeky-sm Let it go. You can do it.

illdefined · 09-29-2004, 01:23 PM

knowing what i think i know of LaVar, he probably went up there to get a new perspective on the game and used it to learn more at his position.

joethiesmanfan · 09-29-2004, 01:41 PM

He just had surgery do you want him being wheeled around in a whell chair on the sideline?

MTK · 09-29-2004, 01:41 PM

I wish people would have all the facts before they decide to bash someone.

From what I've heard he's on crutches for a week so what good is he on the sideline?

Jansen has also been sitting up in the box, why aren't we calling him out???

It's worth noting that LaVar was calling in to a sports radio show on his way home after the game to tell people to not get too crazy over this loss.

Last but not least, LaVar is the last guy we should be questioning in regards to his commitment to the team. He's proven over and over he is here for the long haul and he wants to win as badly as anyone.

SkinsRock · 09-29-2004, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I wish people would have all the facts before they decide to bash someone.

From what I've heard he's on crutches for a week so what good is he on the sideline?

Jansen has also been sitting up in the box, why aren't we calling him out???

It's worth noting that LaVar was calling in to a sports radio show on his way home after the game to tell people to not get too crazy over this loss.

Last but not least, LaVar is the last guy we should be questioning in regards to his commitment to the team. He's proven over and over he is here for the long haul and he wants to win as badly as anyone.

Exactly! Plus, I bet if they were on their way to winning the game, towards the end he would have "appeared" on the sideline to be with and congratulate his teammates...

illdefined · 09-29-2004, 02:00 PM

i bet LaVar on crutches was in the locker room afterwards STILL making sure no one laughed after the loss.

when we caught him smiling if was only halftime and the offense had been showing more life than it had all season.

memphisskin · 09-29-2004, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I wish people would have all the facts before they decide to bash someone.

From what I've heard he's on crutches for a week so what good is he on the sideline?

Jansen has also been sitting up in the box, why aren't we calling him out???

It's worth noting that LaVar was calling in to a sports radio show on his way home after the game to tell people to not get too crazy over this loss.

Last but not least, LaVar is the last guy we should be questioning in regards to his commitment to the team. He's proven over and over he is here for the long haul and he wants to win as badly as anyone.

First, I never questioned his loyalty so that's a non-issue. I just think LaVar's energy is extremely important to our defense. Sitting in the press box denies the team of that energy. So are you saying that he's unimportant?

JWsleep · 09-29-2004, 02:30 PM

Don't know why y'all are hating on Lavar. One: I don't think he was in the owner's box. Two: Jansen isn't down on the field: does that mean he's not a team guy? Three: here's what Lavar did after the game on Monday:

From the Post:

Surprise Phone Call

Linebacker LaVar Arrington, who is expected to miss at least one more game after undergoing minor knee surgery last week, called into a postgame radio talk show early yesterday morning after the Redskins' loss to Dallas to implore fans not to get too down on the team.

Arrington, who is still on crutches, phoned in around 2:15 a.m. on his way home from the game, which he watched from a suite at FedEx Field. "I'm a fan," Arrington said. "I was heckling Dallas fans and everything."

After listening to a few callers question the team's dedication, Arrington called in to praise the effort of his teammates and asked the fans not to panic about the club's 1-2 start.

In his 10 minutes on the air, Arrington attributed Washington's inconsistency to growing pains as the players continue to adjust to a new coaching staff. "The guys kept fighting," Arrington said. "This is a special team. I know we're 1-2, but this is a special group of guys."

Arrington met with James Andrews, who performed the surgery on his right knee, Monday night and said he is feeling much better. Arrington is aiming to return for the Oct. 10 game against Baltimore. He expects to be off crutches in a few days. :thumb:

JWsleep · 09-29-2004, 02:32 PM

In other words, I completely agree, Matty!

Redskins_P · 09-29-2004, 03:15 PM

Lavar is by far the leader of this team. I don't even know why we even have to question it. He's proved time and time again that he's committed to this franchise.

MTK · 09-29-2004, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by memphisskin

First, I never questioned his loyalty so that's a non-issue. I just think LaVar's energy is extremely important to our defense. Sitting in the press box denies the team of that energy. So are you saying that he's unimportant?

To me, where he watches the game from is a non-issue. I didn't see a lack of energy from the D on Monday night, they seemed to be fine to me.

Is Jansen any less important than LaVar? He's one of the unquestioned leaders on offense, yet I haven't heard anyone question him watching the games up in the box.

It just seems to me that people are very quick to point fingers at LaVar.

09-29-2004, 12:12 PM	#1
memphisskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Nashville, TN Age: 53 Posts: 960	Not bashing LaVar, but where was he? Do you think LaVar being up in the pressbox early in the game had any ill effect on the defense? I saw a shot of him up in the pressbox, not sure if it was the owners box or not, but he's the leader of the defense and I think his emotion is contagious and sets the tone. I didn't see any shots of him on the sidelines, I want him down there encouraging guys, challenging his teammates, and helping guys. Maybe he did, but I didn't see it. Think Ray Lewis would be sitting in a press box if he couldn't play?

09-29-2004, 01:13 PM	#4
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,807	Maybe he really isn't supposed to be walking on his knee at all, and that's why he was offered a seat in the box. Maybe the coaches told him to view the game from up there so that he could see what the defense is/ needs to be doing. It's not right to call him out on something that we know nothing about. __________________ "It's not about what you've done, but what's been done for you."

09-29-2004, 02:30 PM	#12
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 56 Posts: 4,719	Don't know why y'all are hating on Lavar. One: I don't think he was in the owner's box. Two: Jansen isn't down on the field: does that mean he's not a team guy? Three: here's what Lavar did after the game on Monday: From the Post: Surprise Phone Call Linebacker LaVar Arrington, who is expected to miss at least one more game after undergoing minor knee surgery last week, called into a postgame radio talk show early yesterday morning after the Redskins' loss to Dallas to implore fans not to get too down on the team. Arrington, who is still on crutches, phoned in around 2:15 a.m. on his way home from the game, which he watched from a suite at FedEx Field. "I'm a fan," Arrington said. "I was heckling Dallas fans and everything." After listening to a few callers question the team's dedication, Arrington called in to praise the effort of his teammates and asked the fans not to panic about the club's 1-2 start. In his 10 minutes on the air, Arrington attributed Washington's inconsistency to growing pains as the players continue to adjust to a new coaching staff. "The guys kept fighting," Arrington said. "This is a special team. I know we're 1-2, but this is a special group of guys." Arrington met with James Andrews, who performed the surgery on his right knee, Monday night and said he is feeling much better. Arrington is aiming to return for the Oct. 10 game against Baltimore. He expects to be off crutches in a few days. :thumb: __________________ Hail from Houston!

09-29-2004, 02:32 PM	#13
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 56 Posts: 4,719	In other words, I completely agree, Matty! __________________ Hail from Houston!

09-29-2004, 01:00 PM	#2
Bozzy The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Columbia, MD Age: 44 Posts: 1,034	I think it's mearly trivial where an injured player sits to watch the game. Who says he cannot cheer the team by sitting with the owner? Maybe Snyder had a guest who wanted to meet LaVar and invited LaVar up there. Since he was injured and all.

09-29-2004, 01:07 PM	#3
LadyT Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ashburn, VA Posts: 219	I think Le Varr belonged on the field with his teammates, not up in the owner's box. It sends the wrong message to the team - that Le Varr is somehow one of the owner's favorites and deserving of special treatment. I remember the same things being done for Deion, when he was here. There were reports that Snyder flew him on his personal jet and other similar stories. The team can only be successful if all players consider themselves equally important to the team's success. Coaches and the owner cannot show favoritism or you risk destroying the subtle chemistry that makes a team a champion. I love Le Varr as a player, but sometimes I think he values himself way too much. He said on the John Thompson show on Monday that he believes, had he played, that he would have been the difference. He might well be right, but that's not something you boast about in public.

09-29-2004, 01:23 PM	#6
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 49 Posts: 2,631	knowing what i think i know of LaVar, he probably went up there to get a new perspective on the game and used it to learn more at his position.

09-29-2004, 01:41 PM	#7
joethiesmanfan The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,163	He just had surgery do you want him being wheeled around in a whell chair on the sideline?

09-29-2004, 01:41 PM	#8
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,753	I wish people would have all the facts before they decide to bash someone. From what I've heard he's on crutches for a week so what good is he on the sideline? Jansen has also been sitting up in the box, why aren't we calling him out??? It's worth noting that LaVar was calling in to a sports radio show on his way home after the game to tell people to not get too crazy over this loss. Last but not least, LaVar is the last guy we should be questioning in regards to his commitment to the team. He's proven over and over he is here for the long haul and he wants to win as badly as anyone.

09-29-2004, 02:00 PM	#10
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 49 Posts: 2,631	i bet LaVar on crutches was in the locker room afterwards STILL making sure no one laughed after the loss. when we caught him smiling if was only halftime and the offense had been showing more life than it had all season.

09-29-2004, 03:15 PM	#14
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	Lavar is by far the leader of this team. I don't even know why we even have to question it. He's proved time and time again that he's committed to this franchise.

Not bashing LaVar, but where was he?

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