Once Again,kicking Game Let Us Down

[htownskinfan]

once again frost and hall screw us,how can you bring those 2 back after last yr? some of the personel descisions are baffling,theisman said that last yr we were the worst in football where the other teams started their drives,how can you spend all that money on free agents and not upgrade these positions? Gibbs needs to get his head out of his ass and wake up,he's turned control of the off over to saunders,he doesnt coach def,wtf else has he got to do? how about wandering down to special teams and figuring it the fck out

[MTK]

Frost had one bad punt tonight. Let's lay off him he wasn't a problem.

Hall hit 3 of 4 and missed a long one at the end. I'm not ready to cut him over that.

The game shouldn't have come down to him having to hit a 48 yarder.

[hurrykaine]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Frost had one bad punt tonight. Let's lay off him he wasn't a problem.

Hall hit 3 of 4 and missed a long one at the end. I'm not ready to cut him over that.

The game shouldn't have come down to him having to hit a 48 yarder.

Matty, I completely disagree with your last statement. When the offense busts its ass (with no time outs) to get you into FG range, your kicker has got to make that kick. It wasn't as though we were asking him to make a 57 yarder. He had the range in pre-game warm ups to make 52. He's got to make that kick.

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Frost had one bad punt tonight. Let's lay off him he wasn't a problem.

Hall hit 3 of 4 and missed a long one at the end. I'm not ready to cut him over that.

The game shouldn't have come down to him having to hit a 48 yarder.

He has missed one kick too many for me, its not really about to tonight...he's missed soooooooo many feild goals over the past three seasons, in clutch situations that its time to let him go. A NFL Kicker needs to make a 47 yard feild goal 4 times out of 5, and he has missed enough feild goals for me to see him go tommraow. He's got more job security than the freaking president right now.

I dont want an NFL kicker that can make 24 yarders all day long, because you can find a good division three soccer player to do that, we need someone who can win games for us. Theres a reason Mark Mosley was the MVP; and thats because he was the difference in alot of games. Hall has had the chance to be the difference in alot of games just going through last year....TB1, SD, SEA playoff game, Tonight...the guy has to come through once in a while, and since the 2003 season, he hasent.

[MTK]

Frost averaged 43.0 per punt tonight by the way.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Frost averaged 43.0 per punt tonight by the way.

how can you take up for these guys? frost is gauranteed to shank 1 a game,how many other punters in the league can you say that about? the only good thing i can say about him is at least he kicks it further than hall on kickoffs,but not by much,oh,and nice tackle
as far as hall goes,did you have any confidence he was going to make that kick? I had none,wasnt even dissapointed,I fkin knew it was coming,as far as his other kicks go,those were frickin extra points,I could make those with a week of practice

[MTK]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

how can you take up for these guys? frost is gauranteed to shank 1 a game,how many other punters in the league can you say that about? the only good thing i can say about him is at least he kicks it further than hall on kickoffs,but not by much,oh,and nice tackle
as far as hall goes,did you have any confidence he was going to make that kick? I had none,wasnt even dissapointed,I fkin knew it was coming,as far as his other kicks go,those were frickin extra points,I could make those with a week of practice

Like I said he hit one bad punt out of 5. For that night he averaged 43.0. Sorry but that's not a problem.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Like I said he hit one bad punt out of 5. For that night he averaged 43.0. Sorry but that's not a problem.

well i dont agree at all,and you didnt address my hall question,which i guess says ,no,you didnt expect hall to make it either,and yes frost did have a decent night punting,but he had yet another shank,and sometimes he has 2 a game,and it just depends on how much time is left and where we are on the field when he does do his shank on how bad it affects us and is talked about.Tonight his shank came early and was forgot about,and I'm not blaming this loss on hall or frost,the blame can go to a lot of places,the thread was kicking game let us down once again,which it did,not cost us the game
why dont you take a poll: are you happy with our kickers or should we have spent some of our free agent money or draft on upgrading those positions

[MTK]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

well i dont agree at all,and you didnt address my hall question,which i guess says ,no,you didnt expect hall to make it either,and yes frost did have a decent night punting,but he had yet another shank,and sometimes he has 2 a game,and it just depends on how much time is left and where we are on the field when he does do his shank on how bad it affects us and is talked about.Tonight his shank came early and was forgot about,and I'm not blaming this loss on hall or frost,the blame can go to a lot of places,the thread was kicking game let us down once again,which it did,not cost us the game
why dont you take a poll: are you happy with our kickers or should we have spent some of our free agent money or draft on upgrading those positions

I already said my peace about Hall.

The game shouldn't have come down to him having to hit a 48 yarder to tie.

Sorry I still fail to see your point on Frost. He hit 4 quality punts out of 5. His performance didn't have an impact on the final score.

[Hog's Breath]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

how can you take up for these guys? frost is gauranteed to shank 1 a game,how many other punters in the league can you say that about? the only good thing i can say about him is at least he kicks it further than hall on kickoffs,but not by much,oh,and nice tackle
as far as hall goes,did you have any confidence he was going to make that kick? I had none,wasnt even dissapointed,I fkin knew it was coming,as far as his other kicks go,those were frickin extra points,I could make those with a week of practice

Dude, I couldn't agree more! I started to get pissed when we didn't go for it on 4th down. Christ, everyone here had to have their doubts about him making that kick. And lets not put this all on Hall.

Betts, please learn how to either dodge a tackle or break a tackle. Our red zone offense was terrible.

Where in the hell was Cooley or Sellars when we were down that close. A super bowl team wins these kind of games, not lose them. No way we should have lost this game. This loss could very well come back to haunt us later in the season. God, this sucks a root.

[DynamiteRave]

I still petition to get Novak back. Haha.

It's not just that John Hall is past his prime, he sucks hard in the clutch.

Definitely not the guy you want it all to come down on in the last seconds like in tonights game.

[dblanch66]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I still petition to get Novak back. Haha.

It's not just that John Hall is past his prime, he sucks hard in the clutch.

Definitely not the guy you want it all to come down on in the last seconds like in tonights game.

Defense sucked. Can't blame it on the kickers.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by dblanch66

Defense sucked. Can't blame it on the kickers.

I definitely agree. The secondary looked like it was in la-la land half the time and the offense couldn't get it done on 3rd down.

There's plenty of blame to be handed around. I just think it shouldn't have all come down on hall. Hes nowhere near consistent and there was 17 seconds left on the clock. I think there were other options than just putting all the weight on his shoulders when the coaches should know by now he's not a clutch kicker.

[StevieSkins32]

I'm new to this site, but I've been watching this team long enough to know that Hall hasn't hit anything over 40 yards consistently in a long time.

[StevieSkins32]

Frost isn't to blame, but 2 stupid personal foul penalties on Sean Taylor really didn't help us tonight.