Maske/JLC: Gibbs Hints Redskins Might Trade Up

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

In the current spirit of starting a thread about any "credible" rumors, I thought I'd pass this along. According to JLC's blog, Gibbs told Maske that the Redskins have talked with other teams about the possibility of trading up ... to draft Calvin Johnson.

Let the freaking out commence.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/

[MTK]

oh boy here we go again

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

oh boy here we go again

Darn! Up,Down,Up,Down..........what tomorrow?

[Pocket$ $traight]

Hopefully this is a smokescreen. Honestly, we want the other teams to have no clue what we want to accomplish on draft day. That might create a greater sense of urgency when we are entertaining deals with other teams.

I can say that I have no earthly idea what they plan on doing when the draft rolls around.

[theJBexperience]

If Brandon Lloyd's in the trade up plans, then I'm down, but that probably wouldn't even fly in Madden.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Ok, now that I got that out of my system I'll actually read the article and then form an opinion.

[Hog1]

I'm gonna go ahead and avoid all the turmoil, and pain. I'll start my thread at #300. This is an out and out BS attempt at deceptive chicanery by that prankster, Joe2. PURE smoke!

[riggoraider]

Originally Posted by Hog1

I'm gonna go ahead and avoid all the turmoil, and pain. I'll start my thread at #300. This is an out and out BS attempt at deceptive chicanery by that prankster, Joe2. PURE smoke!

I am not so sure that this is a smoke screen. I think that the Redskins believe they have improved their defense already and will be working on the scoring offense during the draft. If we do not trade up to get CJ or use the #6 pick to draft Okoye, look for a trade down and we will either select Dwayne Bowe or Robert Meacham.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by riggoraider

I am not so sure that this is a smoke screen. I think that the Redskins believe they have improved their defense already and will be working on the scoring offense during the draft. If we do not trade up to get CJ or use the #6 pick to draft Okoye, look for a trade down and we will either select Dwayne Bowe or Robert Meacham.

Ummm, what about our D-line? We haven't done diddly-poo to improve it. And it was miserable last year. The first thing that comes to mind was when Tiki Barber absolutely worked us over in our house week 17. He gouged us. Just like everyone did all year. If we draft a WR in the first round it is essentially saying ARE and Lloyd probably were bad moves. I know ARE is a punt returner, but there are only so many footballs to go around. We're going to be run first as it is, Cooley will catch between 60-70 balls most likely, as will Moss, so then we have a 1st rd WR and ARE and Lloyd?? All that money for 3 guys who would at best catch around 25 passes each? Doesn't make sense to me unless we trade ARE or Lloyd, neither of whom would have much trade value right now.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Ummm, what about our D-line? We haven't done diddly-poo to improve it. And it was miserable last year. The first thing that comes to mind was when Tiki Barber absolutely worked us over in our house week 17. He gouged us. Just like everyone did all year. If we draft a WR in the first round it is essentially saying ARE and Lloyd probably were bad moves. I know ARE is a punt returner, but there are only so many footballs to go around. We're going to be run first as it is, Cooley will catch between 60-70 balls most likely, as will Moss, so then we have a 1st rd WR and ARE and Lloyd?? All that money for 3 guys who would at best catch around 25 passes each? Doesn't make sense to me unless we trade ARE or Lloyd, neither of whom would have much trade value right now.

Thank you. Great post.

Bonus points for getting "diddly poo" in there without breaking stride.

[riggoraider]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Ummm, what about our D-line? We haven't done diddly-poo to improve it. And it was miserable last year. The first thing that comes to mind was when Tiki Barber absolutely worked us over in our house week 17. He gouged us. Just like everyone did all year. If we draft a WR in the first round it is essentially saying ARE and Lloyd probably were bad moves. I know ARE is a punt returner, but there are only so many footballs to go around. We're going to be run first as it is, Cooley will catch between 60-70 balls most likely, as will Moss, so then we have a 1st rd WR and ARE and Lloyd?? All that money for 3 guys who would at best catch around 25 passes each? Doesn't make sense to me unless we trade ARE or Lloyd, neither of whom would have much trade value right now.

Tiki Barber worked the whole defense over. I do not think that there is one person in the draft who could've stopped that from happening. The D-line did not look that badly when we had corners that we could rely on to cover last season because they had help from other positions which is the way we played in the previous two seasons. We did not have any outstanding lineman then but we were aggresive up front with our safeties, linebackers and corners (in nickle and dime situations).

As far as Lloyd goes, sometime you just have to bite the bullet if it is going to improve a weakness. ARE is a good #3 and gadget receiver but he is not a #2. We will probably have accept the mistake that we made last season in free agency but we do not have to play Lloyd just because his wallet is fat if he is not beneficial to the team.

I look for another receiver to be drafted in the first round if we do not select Okoye.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by riggoraider

Tiki Barber worked the whole defense over. I do not think that there is one person in the draft who could've stopped that from happening. The D-line did not look that badly when we had corners that we could rely on to cover last season because they had help from other positions which is the way we played in the previous two seasons. We did not have any outstanding lineman then but we were aggresive up front with our safeties, linebackers and corners (in nickle and dime situations).

As far as Lloyd goes, sometime you just have to bite the bullet if it is going to improve a weakness. ARE is a good #3 and gadget receiver but he is not a #2. We will probably have accept the mistake that we made last season in free agency but we do not have to play Lloyd just because his wallet is fat if he is not beneficial to the team.

I look for another receiver to be drafted in the first round if we do not select Okoye.

Well, the Dline played better in 04 and 05 than it did last year and that's just a fact. They are aging and injured often. We have to get better up front against the run. It's a flat out fact. We cannot stand pat with what we have up front on D.

Look at the offensive success Saunders had in KC. He had a massive O-line, a great running scheme, a versatile TE with glue hands, and a tall QB with a big arm. We have all of that RIGHT NOW. Eddie Kennison was the best WR he ever had in KC, and he's good, but not a gamebreaker by any means. He certainly never had 3 WRs earing $20M+ each. Lloyd is not going anywhere this year, and neither is ARE. With Campbell working with the first team offense right off the bat, his rapport with them will improve. I'd be shocked not to see better numbers from Lloyd and the entire offense for that matter without adding a thing.

[over the mountain]

while i really dont take what coach gibbs says at face value (kinda sucks) i do believe from what he said that the skins are 100% positive that there is not a premier DL player available in this years draft to warrant a no. 6 selection . . .the obvious choice is to trade down and still get okoye or anderson but the door is open to a reasonable trade up and add the best player in the draft and a potential HOF wr in calvin (the only player the skins seem to think is special, cant pass up) given that oakland is not drooling over calvin w/ the first pick it makes it a consideration. . . that said wr is not the most important position on the field and we got alot invested there already, build the D line but i didnt get to meet and watch calvin in person thoo, the league is due a new explosive right out of the gate awesome reciever and if he lives up to it it would be worth it in hindsight . .

[MTK]

I think at this point anything is possible. A trade up, a trade down, staying put, who really knows what the Skins are thinking. I'm sure they are considering every possibility.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think at this point anything is possible. A trade up, a trade down, staying put, who really knows what the Skins are thinking. I'm sure they are considering every possibility.

To be honest, I really do enjoy the suspence as it's a change from the ordinary. In previous years we would let the whole world know our plan in advance with nothing left to ponder. At least this way, any team with trade aspirations with the Redskins will have to wade through several different possibilities, trading either up or down for the purpose of consumating the best possible deal for all parties involved.