If Chargers can get a 1st & 3rd for Turner, don't we have to shop Betts?

[paulskinsfan]

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The above link says backup RB Michael Turner is visiting Buffalo and Tenn. I later heard Clayton on ESPN radio state that it was a very real possibility that Turner would sign with Buffalo, and they would then give up a 1st and 3rd rounder. If that's the case, shouldn't the Skins FO be shopping Betts? He's not an every down back for the season (injuries) and he does seem to fumble at times. With his contract, I would think the Skins could get a 1st and a 3rd for him too.

[gibbsisgod]

Anybody who signs him has to give SD compensation because he is a restrcited FA. SD signed him to the highest possible tender.

Just my opinion but can we please stop with all the trade Betts/Portis talk. Its getting old and its not gonna happen anyway.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by gibbsisgod

Anybody who signs him has to give SD compensation because he is a restrcited FA. SD signed him to the highest possible tender.

Just my opinion but can we please stop with all the trade Betts/Portis talk. Its getting old and its not gonna happen anyway.

thank you

[MTK]

A little late now don't you think? He's already a big part of our plans for next year and Gibbs seems pretty set on reducing the workload for Portis.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

A little late now don't you think? He's already a big part of our plans for next year and Gibbs seems pretty set on reducing the workload for Portis.

And not a moment too soon.

There's a chance that Portis will be unable to regain his 2005 form due to the amount of carries he got that season. I have to say though, his per play numbers as a less than healthy running back were very promising. It's not unprescidented for a player to get as many carries as Portis got in 2005 to never regain a dominant form, after all, not everybody can be Eric Dickerson or Jerome Bettis.

Having Betts will ensure that if Portis ends up not being as good as he has been that we can switch RBs without having to do something stupid like trading a 3rd round pick for a RB. At the very least, lightening Portis' load will prevent him from having another season where he takes a beating similar to the one he took in 2005, and should prolong his career.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

A little late now don't you think? He's already a big part of our plans for next year and Gibbs seems pretty set on reducing the workload for Portis.

Got that right, after the past season Gibbs is starting to realize that Betts is his best back, and he signed a system back in Portis, he is now in the process of easing the transition to reduce the amount of egg on his face, and to try to avoid hurting Clinton's feelings. As if I didn't see this coming.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by offiss

Got that right, after the past season Gibbs is starting to realize that Betts is his best back, and he signed a system back in Portis, he is now in the process of easing the transition to reduce the amount of egg on his face, and to try to avoid hurting Clinton's feelings. As if I didn't see this coming.

Saying Portis is a system back isn't a defensible statement. It assumes that everyone has an equal amount of success running in Denver when clearly Portis, Mike Anderson, and Terell Davis stand head and shoulders above the rest.

Portis and Betts were drafted in the same year in the same round. Seriously what grounds do you have to say that one or the other is a system back? If anything, Betts should be considered the system back because he hasn't done it anywhere but here.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by offiss

Got that right, after the past season Gibbs is starting to realize that Betts is his best back, and he signed a system back in Portis, he is now in the process of easing the transition to reduce the amount of egg on his face, and to try to avoid hurting Clinton's feelings. As if I didn't see this coming.

Or maybe he's just seen the benefit of having two quality backs, like a lot of teams in this league are doing now. And given the fact Portis is coming off a serious injury it only makes sense to ease him back in rather than giving him 350 carries given the fact he's had a 1300+ yard season here and a 1500+ yard season.

Portis is still the better back and he's definitely not a system back, don't kid yourself. Your system back argument doesn't hold much water anymore.

The way the offensive line was playing in the 2nd half of last year Rock Cartwright would have probably had similar success to Betts.

[Redskin Rich]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Or maybe he's just seen the benefit of having two quality backs, like a lot of teams in this league are doing now. And given the fact Portis is coming off a serious injury it only makes sense to ease him back in rather than giving him 350 carries given the fact he's had a 1300+ yard season here and a 1500+ yard season.

Portis is still the better back and he's definitely not a system back, don't kid yourself. Your system back argument doesn't hold much water anymore.

The way the offensive line was playing in the 2nd half of last year Rock Cartwright would have probably had similar success to Betts.

Portis is a quality back with any team... he just bounces around to much for the Redskin sytem... we need someone who will hit a hole and hit it hard.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Redskin Rich

Portis is a quality back with any team... he just bounces around to much for the Redskin sytem... we need someone who will hit a hole and hit it hard.

I don't think CP "bounces" too much. Every now and then he shows some dance moves in the backfield, but he is a pretty tough runner when he needs to be - he is pretty much a one cut runner w/ the ability to do more (it is b/c he doesn't "dance" that he was so good in the Denver system - which is a one cut system). In fact, CP's biggest problem, IMHO, is that he is a big back in small back body and, consequently, takes a beating for it.

If Portis had been full speed at the end of last year, he would've made 1800+ yards behind that line. He is just quicker and faster than Betts (who I also happen to like).

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by offiss

Got that right, after the past season Gibbs is starting to realize that Betts is his best back, and he signed a system back in Portis, he is now in the process of easing the transition to reduce the amount of egg on his face, and to try to avoid hurting Clinton's feelings. As if I didn't see this coming.

Calling Portis a "system" back is ridicules. I'm not even going to comment any further.

[DiehardSkin88]

HAHAHAHAHA! Offiss, you gotta be kidding me bro. Portis? 3rd down back? Cant stay on the field? What are you smoking dude. I believe this was the first time he was injured in his career? He has always broke 1,000 yards in every season and the first 2 seasons with us he had 1300 then 1500? Broke our rushing record only SECOND season with us, and yes he is still young so what makes you think he'll regress so much? He was playing with an injured shoulder and he he could still pound it in goaline situations for 7 or 8 touchdowns? Your argument is ridiculous you have nothing backing up what your saying of portis being a 3rd down back and all that bullshit. To be honest, this was probably the dumbest response i have ever read on this websit

[dmek25]

about a month ago i was all for trading betts. but not now. too late in the game. i think Gibbs and co. have a solid plan going into next season( or at least i hope)

[Redskin Rich]

People, People.... can we please remember that Betts started only 8 games last year and rushed for 1154 yards....He is also a North, South runner.... why would we want to get rid of him?????

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Redskin Rich

People, People.... can we please remember that Betts started only 8 games last year and rushed for 1154 yards....He is also a North, South runner.... why would we want to get rid of him?????

Because with the holes that the offensive line was opening down the stretch last season, you could have got 900 yards.

Doesn't mean we should get rid of him, but it's not time for any LJ comparisions just yet.