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Old 06-11-2007, 08:04 PM   #1
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ROY re-hashed!

OK, I still firmly beleive the NFL got the rookie of the year wrong in 06. Maurice Jones-Drew should have won!
While Jones-Drew was only 12th in the AFC in Rushing (24th in the NFL) he ranked #1 in all the NFL (with qualified attempts) with a 5.7 ypc.
He also ranked tied for 3rd in total td's with 16. Only Tomlinson (all world 31 total td's) and Johnson (19 total td's) had more. And those two are amazing...1 was the MVP.

On the other foot, Young, was a horrible QB rating wise. Only Gradkowski (TB) and Walter (OAK) had worse rating for all those that reached qualifying attempts.
For all QB's with 10 or more attempts, Young ranked 50th out of 61 QB's in terms of rating.
Young was 1 of only 9 QB's to throw more Int's than TD's (qualified qb's).
In terms of comp %, Young THE WORST in all the NFL for those who qualified.
Only Tuiasosopo (46.2% on 13 attempts), Collins (46.7% on 90 attempts) and Rogers (40% on 15 attempts) we worse than Young for any qb that threw more than 10 attemtps. (that's 61 qb's...so Young was 58th out of 61...that's pathetic.)

Jones drew had a combined 1377 yards (941 rushing and 436 receiving). He also ranked 3rd in the all the NFL in Kickoff returns with a 27.7 average.

How did everyone overlook the obvious horrendous stats that Young put up and missed a true gem in Jones-Drew?
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:09 PM   #2
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Re: ROY re-hashed!

i don't think he was over looked. but the big Vince Young hype machine, coupled with the titans getting on a roll, sealed the deal
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:10 PM   #3
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Re: ROY re-hashed!

Young obviously did not get it for his stats. He got it for his game changing abilities and the way he sparked his team and helped them to a much better finish than anyone expected.
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Old 06-11-2007, 11:17 PM   #4
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Young obviously did not get it for his stats. He got it for his game changing abilities and the way he sparked his team and helped them to a much better finish than anyone expected.
My beef is that the ROY selectors should take their job more seriously. I mean, they are supposed to use judgement skills to sort through the hype and give the award to the best rookie. Instead, they appeared to have done no research or given any thought to it whatsoever.

I don't see any reason why they shouldn't let someone like Jsarno onto their committee. He's quite clearly more qualified to think than they are.

These post season awards are crazy jokes.
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My beef is that the ROY selectors should take their job more seriously. I mean, they are supposed to use judgement skills to sort through the hype and give the award to the best rookie. Instead, they appeared to have done no research or given any thought to it whatsoever.

I don't see any reason why they shouldn't let someone like Jsarno onto their committee. He's quite clearly more qualified to think than they are.

These post season awards are crazy jokes.
If the HOF committee has issues getting the right guys in, how the hell do you think people voting on rookie of the year are going to do??

The postseason awards are on par with the Pro Bowl. It's a popularity contest and yes in the end some people get screwed.

Personally I don't see it as big deal.
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Old 06-12-2007, 12:55 AM   #6
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If the HOF committee has issues getting the right guys in, how the hell do you think people voting on rookie of the year are going to do??

The postseason awards are on par with the Pro Bowl. It's a popularity contest and yes in the end some people get screwed.

Personally I don't see it as big deal.
No one is really saying it's a big deal...it's not like the MVP award, but it still doesn't change the fact that Young didn't deserve it.
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Old 06-12-2007, 12:57 AM   #7
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No one is really saying it's a big deal...it's not like the MVP award, but it still doesn't change the fact that Young didn't deserve it.
So why are we discussing it then? Seems to be one of your personal vendettas.

Whether he deserved it or not is debatable.

It doesn't change the fact he won it... game over.
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:10 PM   #8
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Re: ROY re-hashed!

I loved watching Jones-Drew last year. Someone here, shoot maybe it was Daseal, predicted he'd have a big rookie season. I took note and damn if he wasn't right.

But anyhow, is the intent of this thread for you to remind everyone you think Vince Young is overrated?
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:20 PM   #9
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I loved watching Jones-Drew last year. Someone here, shoot maybe it was Daseal, predicted he'd have a big rookie season. I took note and damn if he wasn't right.

But anyhow, is the intent of this thread for you to remind everyone you think Vince Young is overrated?
While of course I feel Young is overrated, and this thread does seem to have that "theme", my intent is to point out how great Jones-Drew is. I don't know if you would recall, but before he was drafted I said this kid reminds me of Barry Sanders, and I stick to that. I think Jones Drew got skrewed.
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While of course I feel Young is overrated, and this thread does seem to have that "theme", my intent is to point out how great Jones-Drew is. I don't know if you would recall, but before he was drafted I said this kid reminds me of Barry Sanders, and I stick to that. I think Jones Drew got skrewed.
Why not just start a thread that read Jones Is a "Fun Player To Watch" then people would have commented only on Jones and not VY. VY is going to be a good QB in this league and if you compare his number to Peyton's first year they are about the same. I'm not saying that he will ever be a Peyton but his numbers for his first year was not that bad and he didi find ways to win games.
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Old 06-12-2007, 05:54 PM   #11
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VY is going to be a good QB in this league and if you compare his number to Peyton's first year they are about the same.
Ummm what? I audibly laughed at this one. That might be one of the most absurd comments I have heard.
56.7% comp, 3739 yards, and 26 td's...how exactly do those stats compare to the stats of Young? Did you mean Young's numbers compared to Mannings after Manning played his first 9 games or something?
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Old 06-12-2007, 06:00 PM   #12
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Why not just start a thread that read Jones Is a "Fun Player To Watch" then people would have commented only on Jones and not VY.
Well, technically it was my fault for comparing Young to Jones-Drew in the first place...but since Young didn't deserve it, it naturally belongs in this thread.
Still, does it matter? If it was purely about Vince young was overrated, then that would be the name of the thread.
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Old 06-11-2007, 10:23 PM   #13
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I loved watching Jones-Drew last year. Someone here, shoot maybe it was Daseal, predicted he'd have a big rookie season. I took note and damn if he wasn't right.

But anyhow, is the intent of this thread for you to remind everyone you think Vince Young is overrated?
yeah, that was me if we had needed a running back then, we would have been able to get him too. he showed a lot of heart through the combine and his highlight reel.
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:15 PM   #14
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For the record I had no problem with VY getting it. He's an exciting young player. I don't get all the hate.
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:49 PM   #15
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Jones is fun to watch, so is Vince. Vince has a very bright future and really improved as the season progressed. I'm fine with the call.
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