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View Poll Results: The main reason the Skins lost to the Eagles?
Penalties 44 30.99%
Red zone play calling 41 28.87%
Defense giving up big plays 57 40.14%
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Old 11-12-2007, 09:19 AM   #1
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The main reason the Skins lost to the Eagles?

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Old 11-12-2007, 09:25 AM   #2
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Re: The main reason the Skins lost to the Eagles?

I dont see anything to vote on
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Old 11-12-2007, 09:29 AM   #3
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Re: The main reason the Skins lost to the Eagles?

I think it was the Defense this time. The loss of ST really hurt them and Philly took advantage of our misfortune.
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:12 PM   #4
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I think it was the Defense this time. The loss of ST really hurt them and Philly took advantage of our misfortune.
It wasnt the lose of Taylor that hurt them, it was this Cover 2 bullsh!t that williams runs.... BLITZ
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Old 11-12-2007, 09:30 AM   #5
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Re: The main reason the Skins lost to the Eagles?

Penalties directly led to a score that would have at least kept this game tied.
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Old 11-12-2007, 09:33 AM   #6
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Re: The main reason the Skins lost to the Eagles?

Personally I thought the penalties were the main culprit. Too many crucial penalties that extended drives for Philly. And then Cooley's killer false start down near the goal line that pushed us to 3rd and 7 instead of 3rd and 2.
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Old 11-12-2007, 09:36 AM   #7
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Re: The main reason the Skins lost to the Eagles?

Cooley's false start directly cost us 4 points (ARE was open in the flat... great designed play) and Fletcher's interference led to 7pts (and confidence) in the 1st quarter. Not to mention the 3 illegal contact penalties that kept Eagles drives alive.
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Old 11-12-2007, 12:15 PM   #8
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Cooley's false start directly cost us 4 points (ARE was open in the flat... great designed play) and Fletcher's interference led to 7pts (and confidence) in the 1st quarter. Not to mention the 3 illegal contact penalties that kept Eagles drives alive.
Dude Cooley's false start sucked big time for sure. BUT...WTF was the damn call for a draw play from that far out from the goal line!?? That call made me go nuts! Friggin Al Saunders i guarantee it!
JC was throwing good all day...why not give him a chance to go to Cooley or even a bootleg! I mean JC is NOT slow! DAMN!
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Old 11-12-2007, 09:42 AM   #9
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Re: The main reason the Skins lost to the Eagles?

I don't know, there are so many reasons. Smoot's penalty on 3rd down led to Philly eating up the clock and scoring 7 points. Suisham's missed extra point essentially cost us 3 points (1 missed Xp, 1 failed 2 point conversion, and Philly going for the 2 point conversion which they wouldn't have had we had the aforementioned extra 2 points). Those 10 points alone that we needlessly gave up cost us the game.

Then again, I love what the offense did, but they've got to score more points in the redzone. Two drives should not stall inside of the 10 yard line like that. It's good that the offense was moving the ball, but moving the ball doesn't matter too much if they're not scoring 7 points. Those 8 missed points cost us the game.

The Redskins' defense just totally fell apart in the 4th quarter. A lot of it had to do with players being in position to make plays and not making them (e.g., Godfrey dropping 2 INTs, Pierson being in position to break-up or intercept the pass to Reggie Brown and instead allowing a TD, missed tackles on Westbrook, etc.). Some of it had to do with playcalling (e.g., essentially playing the prevent zone all day).
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I don't know, there are so many reasons. Smoot's penalty on 3rd down led to Philly eating up the clock and scoring 7 points. Suisham's missed extra point essentially cost us 3 points (1 missed Xp, 1 failed 2 point conversion, and Philly going for the 2 point conversion which they wouldn't have had we had the aforementioned extra 2 points). Those 10 points alone that we needlessly gave up cost us the game...
Maybe not the "main" reason we lost yesterday, but that really bothered me. I know he was money against the Jets, but damn, you just don't miss those chip shots. I sure hope this doesn't become a trend.
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:39 PM   #11
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Re: The main reason the Skins lost to the Eagles?

All three played a factor, but I would argue that the penalties were the biggest reason. Penalties extended Philly's opening TD drive, and gave them new life right before the bomb to Reggie Brown for another TD. And all that before Cooley's gaffe - the biggest mistake of the game. You just can't false start inside the 10 yard line at home, yet the Skins manage to make mistakes like that repeatedly. That IS NOT coaching. Coaches had a perfect call before Cooley jumped. So we blame the playcalling for that? My only beef with Gibbs/Saunders was the draw on 3rd and 7. For the rest of this terrible loss, I put it squarely on the players making stupid penalties at crucial moments.
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Old 11-12-2007, 10:04 AM   #12
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Re: The main reason the Skins lost to the Eagles?

I voted on playcalling but its a combination of all 3.Penalties killed us,I'm sick of these ticky tack illegal touches penalties,this is not the first game its bailed out a team we've played.The Cooley penalty on the goal line was a killer,it looked like Thrash would have been wide open for the td.The only problem I had with the def was the westbrook td,P.P. was in position on the long td,it was just a good catch.But now that I've thought about it,I want to change my vote to penalties instead of red zone playcalling,it was the other playcalling and clock manegement I had a problem with but that wasnt there to vote on.
I actually though the redzone playcalling was ok,we should have been able to punch it in and we couldnt,then when we didnt pass on 3rd down that was crit·i·cized,but if I'm remebering correctly it was 3rd down on the play before that was going to be a pass but Cooley was flagged and we repeated 3rd down and a draw was called,eagles looked like they were going to blitz,I was ok with that call.
I have more of a problem with the not knowing how to use timeouts,besides the one with the fg,everybody is forgetting about the one before halftime,with 2:08 they call timeout when the eagles are going to punt,then after they punt the 2 minute warning has already passed so they gained nothing,that was a terrible descision and it happens week after week,these are rookie mistakes,theres no excuse for them.
Then when we get the ball back with 3 minutes to play,were in fucking panic mode again,even though we had no timeouts,there was plenty of time to mix run with pass,which had been working great previously,but instead we come out with shotgun mode on every down,it just seemed to rushed and panicky
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Old 11-12-2007, 10:08 AM   #13
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Re: The main reason the Skins lost to the Eagles?

If it were ONLY this one game I would say the defensive penalties that extended drives for the Eagles which resulted in scores.

But that is only the surface issue. The real problem (and I hate to point this out) is dating back to last season it is something like 7 out of 9 last games where Washington had the lead at halftime, they ended up losing those games.

Is it halftime adjustments? Possibly. But there is a definite problem when you are leading at halftime of so many games and do not win those games.

As a caveat I would say the organization has to take a more proactive approach to conditioning as well. There are just way too many injuries for it to be "just bad luck". A player who is conditioned properly greatly reduces the risk of injury due to conditioning. I am not saying the team is out of shape. But with so many injuries, the conditioning program needs to be re-evaluated to see what can be done to reduce those nagging injuries that cost playing time.
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:09 PM   #14
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Re: The main reason the Skins lost to the Eagles?

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If it were ONLY this one game I would say the defensive penalties that extended drives for the Eagles which resulted in scores.

But that is only the surface issue. The real problem (and I hate to point this out) is dating back to last season it is something like 7 out of 9 last games where Washington had the lead at halftime, they ended up losing those games.

Is it halftime adjustments? Possibly. But there is a definite problem when you are leading at halftime of so many games and do not win those games.

As a caveat I would say the organization has to take a more proactive approach to conditioning as well. There are just way too many injuries for it to be "just bad luck". A player who is conditioned properly greatly reduces the risk of injury due to conditioning. I am not saying the team is out of shape. But with so many injuries, the conditioning program needs to be re-evaluated to see what can be done to reduce those nagging injuries that cost playing time.
all the cowboy fans ive seen on here keep it cool and dont go running their mouths but man i really dont feel like seeing that dallas star right now . . . just like all those cowboy fans at sundays game. man i am PISSED THE F' OFF, the skins D was put in a position to hold the eagles and win the game and they didnt. period. nuff said.

no offense sandtrapjack, you come off as an intelligent mild mannered poster and i thank you for that but cowboy hating starts right now, right here. we are going to stomp the sh*t out of your boys for 4 quarters!

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Old 11-13-2007, 05:10 PM   #15
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no offense sandtrapjack, you come off as an intelligent mild mannered poster and i thank you for that but cowboy hating starts right now, right here. we are going to stomp the sh*t out of your boys for 4 quarters!
I am not SandTrapJack, but none taken.

You guys do what you have to do and the Cowboys will do the same.

One thing though, try to enjoy the game of football. You and I are fans and there is not much we can do. Take it easy.
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