giants trying to trade 31st pick for cb hall

[halodoc]

on Fantasy Baseball - Football, Basketball, Hockey, forums, rankings, draft guide - Rotoworld.com they posted a rumor that the giants gm is trying to trade the 31st pick in the draft to the falcons for conerback deanglo hall. i had heard earler that the falcons wanted to move him ,and it didnt take long to find a suitor. i also asume that this deal is to help atlanta move up to mamia's number 1 pick to get qb matt ryan.i didnt see anything posted on this yet ,but if there already was something posted fell free to delete.

[Dirtbag59]

I don't see why they would use this pick (assuming they trade for it) to move up to #1 and select a QB that is pretty far from a sure thing. Especially considering that they wouldn't have a lot to surround him with. I say they have to many needs and stocking up on 3 players in the first 34 picks will go a long way towards helping them rebuild. Especially in a draft thats deep at QB. I would use the first few picks on a RB (DM), an OL, and a S (Kenny Phillips). Those three picks would include guys that could contribute right away, while picking the wrong guy to play QB, especially so early in the draft will set them back even further then they already are.

With that said I don't really want the Giants to get better and I'm pretty sure that the guys bad attitude will change on a winning team.

[sportscurmudgeon]

halodoc:

If any team spends existing capital to trade up so they can draft Matt Ryan in the #1 slot earning that team the honor of paying him a guaranteed $30-35M, the team will be sorry for that.

[That Guy]

great deal for the giants. hall's contract was maxed on bonus cash, so he'd be cheap (though i assume there'd be a new deal involved).

hall wasn't as good as the early hype he was getting, but he can play.

[dmek25]

thatguy, i think if im the skins, i would trade my #21 for hall. young( i think he is 24) already been to the pro bowl. and would fit in nicely next to springs. already a proven player in this league

[Carnage]

i agree. he is pretty physical, a vet at a young age, and 2 year nfl fastest man.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by dmek25

thatguy, i think if im the skins, i would trade my #21 for hall. young( i think he is 24) already been to the pro bowl. and would fit in nicely next to springs. already a proven player in this league

I wouldn't be opposed to getting D. Hall but if we're trading that #1 pick for anyone, it better be Fitzgerald, Ocho or Roy Williams.. WR is a bigger need than CB.

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I wouldn't be opposed to getting D. Hall but if we're trading that #1 pick for anyone, it better be Fitzgerald, Ocho or Roy Williams.. WR is a bigger need than CB.

Agree

[QBall]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I wouldn't be opposed to getting D. Hall but if we're trading that #1 pick for anyone, it better be Fitzgerald, Ocho or Roy Williams.. WR is a bigger need than CB.

Are you sure? Rogers out. Springs good but older. Smoot solid but not a shutdown # 1 corner IMO.

We have Moss and Randle El that are in the prime of their careers.

I think we do need a WR but not sure if I'd be so quick to trade away picks for one. Larry Fitzgerald would be awesome in Washington but that's not our biggest need. Add Cooley to the passing mix and there's not enough balls for another stud wide-out with a huge monster contract and losing a pick. We run the hell out of the ball so think we need to stack up on defense.

[tdSKINS1]

I am a Hokie fan too and yep he might have had some problems in the locker, but watching him for a long time the man is a beast. The man can flat out fly, and Tech would have won the ACC with him the next year if he stayed anyway. I would take him on our team, he can cover, he's fast as hell and is very physical.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by QBall

Are you sure? Rogers out. Springs good but older. Smoot solid but not a shutdown # 1 corner IMO.

We have Moss and Randle El that are in the prime of their careers.

I think we do need a WR but not sure if I'd be so quick to trade away picks for one. Larry Fitzgerald would be awesome in Washington but that's not our biggest need. Add Cooley to the passing mix and there's not enough balls for another stud wide-out with a huge monster contract and losing a pick. We run the hell out of the ball so think we need to stack up on defense.

Rogers out but will be back by midseason, I agree on Springs and Smoot but I really don't think CB is such a drastic need that we have to give up our #1 pick for another corner. Just in the division, our CB are better than Dallas or NYG and how did their seasons turn out?

Moss and Randle El are decent #1 & #2 WR but would be excellent #2 and #3 WR.. Cooley's effectiveness will only increase with a stud WR..

Zorn isn't Gibbs who was going to try to pound the ball with super jumbo packages in the 2nd quarter on 2nd and 7 from the 45 yard line. We're going to see more 4-5 WR (including Cooley and Portis split out wide) sets than we've ever seen before and we need a stud who defenses have to account for on every play to open things up.

[SFREDSKIN]

I would stay away from him, he's a punk! Talent he has, class he doesn't.

[QBall]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Rogers out but will be back by midseason, I agree on Springs and Smoot but I really don't think CB is such a drastic need that we have to give up our #1 pick for another corner. Just in the division, our CB are better than Dallas or NYG and how did their seasons turn out?

Moss and Randle El are decent #1 & #2 WR but would be excellent #2 and #3 WR.. Cooley's effectiveness will only increase with a stud WR..

Zorn isn't Gibbs who was going to try to pound the ball with super jumbo packages in the 2nd quarter on 2nd and 7 from the 45 yard line. We're going to see more 4-5 WR (including Cooley and Portis split out wide) sets than we've ever seen before and we need a stud who defenses have to account for on every play to open things up.

I don't agree with your take on Zorn's offense. Not going to have many 4 or 5 wideout sets. Zorn has already stated his desire to keep Redskins running attack a priority. Sure we'll throw a bit more but we don't have the personel for 5 wideouts so why go there? Not going to happen. Gibbs didn't call plays the past two seasons anyway. Yes, he did influence Al but we didn't just pound the ball at all the past two years. Yes when Portis went down in 06' we ran more b/c we sucked balls and lost every game. Last year we had a mix. I would pick first a defensive lineman and next a corner, just me.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I wouldn't be opposed to getting D. Hall but if we're trading that #1 pick for anyone, it better be Fitzgerald, Ocho or Roy Williams.. WR is a bigger need than CB.

i don't understand your reasoning. we have Santana Moss, and Randel El as our starters. both are proven nfl caliber receivers. at corner we start Springs, who is very old for a corner, and Smoot. at best, Smoot is a nickle corner, who is starting do to Rogers injury. who knows when, or even if, Rogers comes back. his injury is the most severe type of knee injury anyone can sustain. it will be a very long road to recovery for Mr. Rogers. im not saying our receiving corps is top notch, but the are at least adequate. right now, the skins have ONE legitimate starting nfl corner

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by dmek25

i don't understand your reasoning. we have Santana Moss, and Randel El as our starters. both are proven nfl caliber receivers. at corner we start Springs, who is very old for a corner, and Smoot. at best, Smoot is a nickle corner, who is starting do to Rogers injury. who knows when, or even if, Rogers comes back. his injury is the most severe type of knee injury anyone can sustain. it will be a very long road to recovery for Mr. Rogers. im not saying our receiving corps is top notch, but the are at least adequate. right now, the skins have ONE legitimate starting nfl corner

I didn't state we don't need a CB at all, but if we're going to trade our #1 pick, I'd rather see it for a WR than a CB. We can get a decent CB (Drayton Florence for example) thru free agency to hold the fort until Rogers comes back. I'm more comfortable with Springs/Smoot than I am with Moss/Randle El.. If we don't do anything, by Halloween we're 3 strong at CB yet still undersized and undermanned at WR.