Non-Jason Taylor News (from Redskins Blog)

[Slingin Sammy 33]

A few things stood out for me in this blog:

1) Springs is healthy and looks in great shape

2) Smoot is fine after yesterday's ankle issue.

3) JC sounds like he's about 50/50 hot & cold. To me at this point that's a good thing, it means his timing with the WRs is coming along. His knee is likely 100% and not effecting his throws. His errors are probably "read" errors (correctable).

4) Colt Brennan's release sounds a bit "Wuerfful-like". It sounds like he's put on some weight though.

The Official Blog of The Washington Redskins

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

A3) JC sounds like he's about 50/50 hot & cold. To me at this point that's a good thing, it means his timing with the WRs is coming along. His knee is likely 100% and not effecting his throws. His errors are probably "read" errors (correctable).

I've about had it with all of the excuses about why JC is so freakin inconsistent... I just hope Zorn will see the writing on the wall and do the right thing before we have to dig ourselves out of a huge hole mid-season!

[Dirtbag59]

JLC also managed to write a beautiful article bitching about the front office again. If DS weekness is having to make big splashes JLC's weakness is having to trash him (Snyder) for petty reasons. And of course mine is bashing JLC.
Posted at 3:27 PM ET, 07/21/2008

The Immaculate Deception

There is a reason the media schlubs around here have a hard time believing a lot of what comes out of Vinny Cerrato's mouth, and a reason he has credibility issues. Yesterday was a prime example, though hardly unprecedented in these parts. Cerrato repeatedly denied the team was interested in Jason Taylor to the local media (via text, phone call, and then in front of the camera at a press conference), from about 2 pm right up until he tripped over his own feet entering the media room to announce the trade.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

JLC also managed to write a beautiful article bitching about the front office again. If DS weekness is having to make big splashes JLC's weakness is having to trash him (Snyder) for petty reasons. And of course mine is bashing JLC.
Posted at 3:27 PM ET, 07/21/2008

The Immaculate Deception

There is a reason the media schlubs around here have a hard time believing a lot of what comes out of Vinny Cerrato's mouth, and a reason he has credibility issues. Yesterday was a prime example, though hardly unprecedented in these parts. Cerrato repeatedly denied the team was interested in Jason Taylor to the local media (via text, phone call, and then in front of the camera at a press conference), from about 2 pm right up until he tripped over his own feet entering the media room to announce the trade.

I'm not to worried about Vinny and JLC right about now since we've got some football to talk about. I can see, though, how the media has a little bit of distrust for the skins FO. A simple no comment would be the better response. This is nothing new as i don't believe alot of what comes from Vinny. He is a likeable guy though, he just needs to go to a Public Relations 101 basic learning class. He's not the first FO guy to bend the truth a little.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by redsk1

I'm not to worried about Vinny and JLC right about now since we've got some football to talk about. I can see, though, how the media has a little bit of distrust for the skins FO. A simple no comment would be the better response. This is nothing new as i don't believe alot of what comes from Vinny. He is a likeable guy though, he just needs to go to a Public Relations 101 basic learning class. He's not the first FO guy to bend the truth a little.

I just don't get why the media gets surprised when a FO member does not give them the answers they want. So what if he said no comment (which is as good as saying yes) or yes we are negotiating a trade if another team was looking at JT they may have derailed us from getting him. So thumbs up to VC for throwing off the media.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I just don't get why the media gets surprised when a FO member does not give them the answers they want. So what if he said no comment (which is as good as saying yes) or yes we are negotiating a trade if another team was looking at JT they may have derailed us from getting him. So thumbs up to VC for throwing off the media.

The other thing I don't get, why does the media think they have any influence over what Vinny Cerrato does?

So he lied to you, and you didn't like it. Is he supposed to care? Why? What are you going to do, write a story about how he's a liar liar pants on fire? Toilet paper the trees in his front yard? Gimme a break.

[J. Spanky]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

I've about had it with all of the excuses about why JC is so freakin inconsistent... I just hope Zorn will see the writing on the wall and do the right thing before we have to dig ourselves out of a huge hole mid-season!

and what exactly is the "right thing"?

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by J. Spanky

and what exactly is the "right thing"?

The right thing is not something most of you would like very much.

[BigSKINBauer]

In other news:
Big ups to our depth!

Depth serves teams well over course of NFL grind

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Word is Campbell is actually disappointed in the first couple days of camp. Hopefully that'll change before preseason starts. 13 days!!!@123

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

A few things stood out for me in this blog:

1) Springs is healthy and looks in great shape

2) Smoot is fine after yesterday's ankle issue.

3) JC sounds like he's about 50/50 hot & cold. To me at this point that's a good thing, it means his timing with the WRs is coming along. His knee is likely 100% and not effecting his throws. His errors are probably "read" errors (correctable).

4) Colt Brennan's release sounds a bit "Wuerfful-like". It sounds like he's put on some weight though.

The Official Blog of The Washington Redskins

Kosar had a strange throw as well but it worked. Not that CB is going to have a career like Bernie Kosar. Zorn will decide whether he wants to change that delivery.

Springs is a worker. I would have been suprised if he showed up in bad shape.

[MTK]

And I thought due to potential charges of tampering Vinny was well within his rights to say they weren't interested at that time. That JLC article just seems like sour grapes.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

And I thought due to potential charges of tampering Vinny was well within his rights to say they weren't interested at that time. That JLC article just seems like sour grapes.

Exactly. Why does JLC think he has some right to know what the front office is thinking in regards to personnel decisions? Why would Vinny want other teams to know that the Redskins were thinking about acquiring Taylor, thereby potentially entering into a bidding war or getting slapped with tampering charges? Granted, Vinny could have responded to inquiries with "no comment," but that's tantamount to saying, "I absolutely confirm the validity of these rumors."

Either JLC (1) realizes that front offices' engage in subterfuge, deception, and outright lies; or (2) he is an idiot for believing that Vinny should be absolutely candid with the press. In any event, JLC seems like he has some serious personal beef with this front office. He never wastes an opportunity to blast the team. He might think he is just calling them like he sees them and the rest of us are dumb sheep, but I tend to think he is oftentimes unprofessional insofar as he is letting his personal biases color his perception of front office moves.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Exactly. Why does JLC think he has some right to know what the front office is thinking in regards to personnel decisions? Why would Vinny want other teams to know that the Redskins were thinking about acquiring Taylor, thereby potentially entering into a bidding war or getting slapped with tampering charges? Granted, Vinny could have responded to inquiries with "no comment," but that's tantamount to saying, "I absolutely confirm the validity of these rumors."

Either JLC (1) realizes that front offices' engage in subterfuge, deception, and outright lies; or (2) he is an idiot for believing that Vinny should be absolutely candid with the press. In any event, JLC seems like he has some serious personal beef with this front office. He never wastes an opportunity to blast the team. He might think he is just calling them like he sees them and the rest of us are dumb sheep, but I tend to think he is oftentimes unprofessional insofar as he is letting his personal biases color his perception of front office moves.

It's kinda cool that JLC is not a homer. I think he provides more scrutiny than a homer would, and I can sort through what is BS and what is substantial.

But yeah, it is funny that JLC wrote a blog about this. I thought it was common knowledge that FOs lie to the media.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Exactly. Why does JLC think he has some right to know what the front office is thinking in regards to personnel decisions? Why would Vinny want other teams to know that the Redskins were thinking about acquiring Taylor, thereby potentially entering into a bidding war or getting slapped with tampering charges? Granted, Vinny could have responded to inquiries with "no comment," but that's tantamount to saying, "I absolutely confirm the validity of these rumors."

Either JLC (1) realizes that front offices' engage in subterfuge, deception, and outright lies; or (2) he is an idiot for believing that Vinny should be absolutely candid with the press. In any event, JLC seems like he has some serious personal beef with this front office. He never wastes an opportunity to blast the team. He might think he is just calling them like he sees them and the rest of us are dumb sheep, but I tend to think he is oftentimes unprofessional insofar as he is letting his personal biases color his perception of front office moves.

Good post, I would agree that JLC does behave unreasonably with his incessant bashing of the team.

I don't think we could have been hit with any tampering charges when it comes to Taylor, because tampering would consist of talking to a guy when he's under contract. That's not what Vinny was doing, he wasn't talking to Taylor, he was talking to Parcells about trading for Taylor. Which is perfectly legal in the NFL world.

But tampering notwithstanding, you're right, JLC should know that teams aren't going to be honest about player acquisition. It would be bad business.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I don't think we could have been hit with any tampering charges when it comes to Taylor, because tampering would consist of talking to a guy when he's under contract. That's not what Vinny was doing, he wasn't talking to Taylor, he was talking to Parcells about trading for Taylor. Which is perfectly legal in the NFL world.

I could be wrong, but I thought that tampering encompasses any statements which suggest that a team is interested in a player under contract with another team. I think the rationale for that broad construction of the concept of tampering is that if a player is thinking about holding out unless he is traded, public expressions of interest in trading for that player would only encourage him to hold out. Had Vinny had told the press that the Redskins are trying to trade for Taylor, they would have expressed an interest in acquiring a player under contract with another team.