What's with the Ref. in the booth

rickmmrr · 09-13-2004, 12:53 PM

The skins hired a retired referee to assist coach gibbs in challenging bad calls. What was his problem when Brunell got the first down on the one yard line?

bridaman51 · 09-13-2004, 12:54 PM

yeah I reall thought he would challenge that. It was so clear, I hope he does better as the season goes on.

MTK · 09-13-2004, 12:56 PM

For whatever reason he advised Gibbs to not challenge it. Maybe he didn't have the same angle that we saw on TV, that's about the only reason I can think of because it was pretty clear that it was a first down all the way.

What was up with that spot from the refs anyway?? Just horrible.

bridaman51 · 09-13-2004, 12:58 PM

yeah the refs were not ontop of that one for sure. So he did advise them not to challenge it. I was thinking maybe he did not really see it and said nothing at all (well atleast that is what i was hoping)

SmootSmack · 09-13-2004, 01:08 PM

At the time (not knowing what the final result was going to be) did you guys think maybe we should have gone for it anyway on 4th down? I guess you always want to go for the sure points but I like the idea of sending a message with a "bold" decision like that

CRT3 · 09-13-2004, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by smootsmack

At the time (not knowing what the final result was going to be) did you guys think maybe we should have gone for it anyway on 4th down? I guess you always want to go for the sure points but I like the idea of sending a message with a "bold" decision like that

Guess you weren't around for Gibbs I. NEVER TAKE POINTS OFF THE BOARD. This is so ingrained in the regulars that you did not hear one boo nor one chant to go for it. I agree. But the mark was bad and the challenge should have happened. So lesson one for the rookies of Gibbs II DON'T TAKE POINTS OFF THE BOARD!!!

CRT3 · 09-13-2004, 04:11 PM

But you might also think if he doesn't get it by going on 4th down we have them pinned deep on the one with loud fans and a vicious defense. If you remember the special teams gave up a long one after the field goal. But if they goo 99 yards and score we lose momentum and most likely the game. So good decsion.

SmootSmack · 09-13-2004, 04:44 PM

Yeah I was around for Gibbs the first time around. I seem to remember him going for it on 4th and 1 in a certain Super Bowl. Or how about 1989 (or was it 90?) when he went for it on 4th and 4 or 5 against the Chargers and got a TD to Gary Clark? Granted the circumstances weren't exactly the same, and I had no problem at all with taking the field goal yesterday, I was just curious what people on this board thought of the decision

BrudLee · 09-13-2004, 11:28 PM

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Remember that John Hall had just missed a FG on the previous possession. If Gibbs had decided to go for it, even that close to the end zone, many would have considered in a vote of "no confidence" in Hall. Letting him kick the FG was A) guaranteed points, and B) a reminder that he's an important weapon.

I like that argument. Good point.

CRT3 · 09-13-2004, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BrudLee

Remember that John Hall had just missed a FG on the previous possession. If Gibbs had decided to go for it, even that close to the end zone, many would have considered in a vote of "no confidence" in Hall. Letting him kick the FG was A) guaranteed points, and B) a reminder that he's an important weapon.

He missed from 50 but had plenty of leg. Don't think they were to worried about his confidence from 3 yards out

SmootSmack · 09-14-2004, 01:21 AM

Oops Brud! I meant to quote your comment about a possible no confidence vote, not edit it.

Damn You Alcohol!!!!!!!!

Big C · 09-13-2004, 01:05 PM

i dont know how many challenges we will see from gibbs this year, for some reason ithink he wont want to risk losing the timeout, unless its really, really evident or in the 4th quarter and is desperately needed.

rickmmrr · 09-13-2004, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Big C

i dont know how many challenges we will see from gibbs this year, for some reason ithink he wont want to risk losing the timeout, unless its really, really evident or in the 4th quarter and is desperately needed.

I think you're right. Gibbs doesn't want to loose any timeouts.

MTK · 09-13-2004, 01:13 PM

I liked the decision to take the points.

God forbid they went for it and got stopped, that could have really changed the momentum of the game.

JoeRedskin · 09-13-2004, 01:24 PM

Also, I have read - on the Bucs forum for what it's worth - that Brunnell's elbow hit the turf with the ball short of the first down (in which case he is down). Did the TV replay show this?

As I was 4 rows from the top of the stadium, I don't think I had the best angle.

09-13-2004, 12:53 PM	#1
rickmmrr Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 395	What's with the Ref. in the booth The skins hired a retired referee to assist coach gibbs in challenging bad calls. What was his problem when Brunell got the first down on the one yard line?

09-13-2004, 01:08 PM	#5
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	At the time (not knowing what the final result was going to be) did you guys think maybe we should have gone for it anyway on 4th down? I guess you always want to go for the sure points but I like the idea of sending a message with a "bold" decision like that __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

09-13-2004, 04:44 PM	#8
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Yeah I was around for Gibbs the first time around. I seem to remember him going for it on 4th and 1 in a certain Super Bowl. Or how about 1989 (or was it 90?) when he went for it on 4th and 4 or 5 against the Chargers and got a TD to Gary Clark? Granted the circumstances weren't exactly the same, and I had no problem at all with taking the field goal yesterday, I was just curious what people on this board thought of the decision __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You Last edited by SmootSmack; 09-13-2004 at 05:27 PM.

09-14-2004, 01:21 AM	#11
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Oops Brud! I meant to quote your comment about a possible no confidence vote, not edit it. Damn You Alcohol!!!!!!!! __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

09-13-2004, 01:05 PM	#12
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 38 Posts: 4,453	i dont know how many challenges we will see from gibbs this year, for some reason ithink he wont want to risk losing the timeout, unless its really, really evident or in the 4th quarter and is desperately needed. __________________ "I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs

09-13-2004, 12:54 PM	#2
bridaman51 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Roanoke Virginia Age: 46 Posts: 335	yeah I reall thought he would challenge that. It was so clear, I hope he does better as the season goes on.

09-13-2004, 12:56 PM	#3
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	For whatever reason he advised Gibbs to not challenge it. Maybe he didn't have the same angle that we saw on TV, that's about the only reason I can think of because it was pretty clear that it was a first down all the way. What was up with that spot from the refs anyway?? Just horrible.

09-13-2004, 12:58 PM	#4
bridaman51 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Roanoke Virginia Age: 46 Posts: 335	yeah the refs were not ontop of that one for sure. So he did advise them not to challenge it. I was thinking maybe he did not really see it and said nothing at all (well atleast that is what i was hoping)

09-13-2004, 04:11 PM	#7
CRT3 Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Rockville Age: 61 Posts: 795	But you might also think if he doesn't get it by going on 4th down we have them pinned deep on the one with loud fans and a vicious defense. If you remember the special teams gave up a long one after the field goal. But if they goo 99 yards and score we lose momentum and most likely the game. So good decsion.

09-13-2004, 01:13 PM	#14
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	I liked the decision to take the points. God forbid they went for it and got stopped, that could have really changed the momentum of the game.

09-13-2004, 01:24 PM	#15
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Also, I have read - on the Bucs forum for what it's worth - that Brunnell's elbow hit the turf with the ball short of the first down (in which case he is down). Did the TV replay show this? As I was 4 rows from the top of the stadium, I don't think I had the best angle.

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