Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams)

SmootSmack · 09-20-2009, 04:50 PM

Sigh....let's just get right to it

Jim Zorn What's the deal here? The offense runs smoothly (for the most part) from red zone to red zone, yet it's a total mess inside the red zone. And look, I realize that guys like Thomas and Sellers didn't execute but that's still no excuses for some of his decisions in the red zone. I won't rehash them, because we all know what they are-run, run, option pass. And what part of Campbell is better out of the shotgun is so foreign? As I've mentioned I'm sure too many times, I was around the Redskins a lot during Norv's final years. And one thing that always stood out was how many players would say "Norv coaches like he doesn't trust any of us to be smart enough to run his plays" Sometimes I feel like Zorn is the same way.

Mike Sellers/Devin Thomas In this offense, their number won't be called too often. So they need to make plays when given the opportunity

Dan Snyder Do the right thing, not the popular thing. I don't know that making a coaching change right now is the answer. I don't think it is personally, what is he going to do? Make Joe Bugel the interim coach for the rest of the year. But if and when he thinks a change is needed, make that change. Don't be "patient" just to show you can be. The fans at the end of the day just want to win.

I'm just going to leave it at that today. A simple win was not going to be enough today. This next stretch of games was the opportunity for everyone (front office, coaches, players, and fans) to gain confidence in this team and this offense and get excited. Even with a win, we are off to a piss poor start.

MTK · 09-20-2009, 04:55 PM

Zorn, Zorn, Zorn

Right now he's the problem, and a big one.

I don't agree with making a change during the season, but he's clearly on the hot seat and the flames are only getting hotter.

GusFrerotte · 09-20-2009, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Zorn, Zorn, Zorn

Right now he's the problem, and a big one.

I don't agree with making a change during the season, but he's clearly on the hot seat and the flames are only getting hotter.

I get the feeling Snyder knew this was going to happen. Snyder wanted a Cowher or Billick but those guys weren't biting so he got Zorn to be his sacrificial lamb so to speak until the big boys were ready to coach again.

wilsowilso · 09-20-2009, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

I get the feeling Snyder knew this was going to happen. Snyder wanted a Cowher or Billick but those guys weren't biting so he got Zorn to be his sacrificial lamb so to speak until the big boys were ready to coach again.

I keep hearing this crazy argument. It makes no sense.

MTK · 09-20-2009, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by wilsowilso

I keep hearing this crazy argument. It makes no sense.

Yeah I agree.

It's another wacky conspiracy theory some fans seem to buy into.

It's crap.

12thMan · 09-20-2009, 04:58 PM

I was so hoping I was wrong about my sentiments following last week's game, but Zorn keeps proving us naysayers right.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 09-20-2009, 05:02 PM

Red Zone playcalling was piss poor. Overall the production and playcalling was better. This must continue to improve or I agree we should be looking at our options at the end of the season.

D playcalling much better this week. Like the aggression.

Isn't Holmgren still out there as a GM or HC, maybe we keep Zorn as OC and Holmgren helps get him straight.

dmvskinzfan08 · 09-21-2009, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Isn't Holmgren still out there as a GM or HC, maybe we keep Zorn as OC and Holmgren helps get him straight.

I was thinking that just the other day. The turnover wouldn' be that bad because he probably runs some of the same plays Holmgren did at Seatlle. Holmgren just called a better game. Bring n Holmgren and knock Zorn down to QB coach or coordinator?

MTK · 09-20-2009, 05:02 PM

I know Zorn is gonna catch a lot of heat this week but Moss and Sellers flat out ruined two scoring opportunities. That shouldn't be overlooked.

roth74va · 09-20-2009, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I know Zorn is gonna catch a lot of heat this week but Moss and Sellers flat out ruined two scoring opportunities. That shouldn't be overlooked.

Also D.Thomas dropped a TD, so add him to that bunch as well.

SBXVII · 09-20-2009, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I know Zorn is gonna catch a lot of heat this week but Moss and Sellers flat out ruined two scoring opportunities. That shouldn't be overlooked.

Hold up, If your talking about Sellers and the pass thrown his way? I doubt he would have made the end zone, but even saying that JC threw the ball way to hard. The ball went in and out of Sellers hands due to JC simply blasting the ball everywhere. JC needs to learn not to blast the ball when his WR's are within 15 yrds of him.

roth74va · 09-21-2009, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

Hold up, If your talking about Sellers and the pass thrown his way? I doubt he would have made the end zone, but even saying that JC threw the ball way to hard. The ball went in and out of Sellers hands due to JC simply blasting the ball everywhere. JC needs to learn not to blast the ball when his WR's are within 15 yrds of him.

You gotta be kidding, the ball hits you in the hands you have to catch the damn ball....PERIOD!!!! So we complain when Campbell under/over throws someone, and now your making excuses for the receiver because he throws the ball too hard, what a joke!!!

Paintrain · 09-21-2009, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by roth74va

You gotta be kidding, the ball hits you in the hands you have to catch the damn ball....PERIOD!!!! So we complain when Campbell under/over throws someone, and now your making excuses for the receiver because he throws the ball too hard, what a joke!!!

Don't even waste your time. Some people are going to complain and blame Campbell for anything and everything.

More concerning is that of the 'cupcakes' we have ahead on our schedule, each one of them (Detroit-13, Bucs-20, Panthers-20, Chiefs-10) all outscored us today. Instead of them being the marks on our schedule, we just became marks on theirs! I'm expecting an ugly Halloween season around the Zorn household. The 'bye' week may have a dual meaning.

MTK · 09-21-2009, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

Hold up, If your talking about Sellers and the pass thrown his way? I doubt he would have made the end zone, but even saying that JC threw the ball way to hard. The ball went in and out of Sellers hands due to JC simply blasting the ball everywhere. JC needs to learn not to blast the ball when his WR's are within 15 yrds of him.

You've gotta be joking that was a completely catchable ball

FRPLG · 09-21-2009, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

You've gotta be joking that was a completely catchable ball

You gotta understand...even when it's not JC's fault, it still is to these guys.

09-20-2009, 04:50 PM	#1
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams) Sigh....let's just get right to it Jim Zorn What's the deal here? The offense runs smoothly (for the most part) from red zone to red zone, yet it's a total mess inside the red zone. And look, I realize that guys like Thomas and Sellers didn't execute but that's still no excuses for some of his decisions in the red zone. I won't rehash them, because we all know what they are-run, run, option pass. And what part of Campbell is better out of the shotgun is so foreign? As I've mentioned I'm sure too many times, I was around the Redskins a lot during Norv's final years. And one thing that always stood out was how many players would say "Norv coaches like he doesn't trust any of us to be smart enough to run his plays" Sometimes I feel like Zorn is the same way. Mike Sellers/Devin Thomas In this offense, their number won't be called too often. So they need to make plays when given the opportunity Dan Snyder Do the right thing, not the popular thing. I don't know that making a coaching change right now is the answer. I don't think it is personally, what is he going to do? Make Joe Bugel the interim coach for the rest of the year. But if and when he thinks a change is needed, make that change. Don't be "patient" just to show you can be. The fans at the end of the day just want to win. I'm just going to leave it at that today. A simple win was not going to be enough today. This next stretch of games was the opportunity for everyone (front office, coaches, players, and fans) to gain confidence in this team and this offense and get excited. Even with a win, we are off to a piss poor start. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

09-20-2009, 04:55 PM	#2
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams) Zorn, Zorn, Zorn Right now he's the problem, and a big one. I don't agree with making a change during the season, but he's clearly on the hot seat and the flames are only getting hotter. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

09-20-2009, 04:58 PM	#6
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams) I was so hoping I was wrong about my sentiments following last week's game, but Zorn keeps proving us naysayers right.

09-20-2009, 05:02 PM	#7
Slingin Sammy 33 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 4,347	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams) Red Zone playcalling was piss poor. Overall the production and playcalling was better. This must continue to improve or I agree we should be looking at our options at the end of the season. D playcalling much better this week. Like the aggression. Isn't Holmgren still out there as a GM or HC, maybe we keep Zorn as OC and Holmgren helps get him straight. __________________ "I would bet.....(if), an angel fairy came down and said, '[You can have anything] in the world you would like to own,' I wouldn't be surprised if you said a football club and particularly the Washington Redskins.'' — Jack Kent Cooke, 1996.

09-20-2009, 05:02 PM	#9
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams) I know Zorn is gonna catch a lot of heat this week but Moss and Sellers flat out ruined two scoring opportunities. That shouldn't be overlooked. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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