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Old 02-16-2005, 03:46 PM   #1
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No go Plaxico, or Muhammad?

Yesterday Joe Gibbs stated: "We'd like to solve everything we can through FA."
As far as in regaurds to Plax and Muhamad he stated; "do we have the money, do we have the cap room? I'd think it would be tough for us to go after one of those two guys"

So does this mean we won't try on these two guys? if so who will we try to target? So I ask u warpath, who would u go after outside of those two guys to sign as Wide reciever.

I still think Jerry Porter, David Patten, and Kevin Johnson are viable options for the team. As far as the draft, I really hope Mike Williams has a bad combine to make him avialable at #9 or past that. he will be a star in this league. I would love to see him at redskin park.
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Old 02-16-2005, 04:13 PM   #2
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Re: No go Plaxico, or Muhammad?

I think that is exactly what he's saying, Gibbs doesn't want to pay an arm and a leg for a receiver. Muhammed is asking for a signing bonus over $10 million, and Plax would command a tidy sum as well. Trying to crunch them into our salary cap situation would create holes in other positions, it's just not worth it. Kevin Johnson seems alright to me, but I'm not sure how much of an upgrade he is on James Thrash or Taylor Jacobs. Jacobs, in my opinion, could do some damage if given a chance. I'd like him in the 3rd receiver role though. I'd love to see David Patten as a Redskin. He's hard working, humble, doesn't piss & moan, and he makes key plays when you need him to. He'd be a nice complement to Coles, and he'd be affordable under our salary cap.

I don't know what to think about Porter. He reminds me of Michael Westbrook to be honest, lots of ability and shows flashes of brilliance, but they don't come any more inconsistent.

I believe TJ Houshmandzedeh from the Bengals is available. I wouldn't mind seeing him in burgundy & gold either.
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Old 02-16-2005, 04:18 PM   #3
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Re: No go Plaxico, or Muhammad?

I don't think Muhammad was ever a serious consideration, not when the first thing is agent says is basically show me the money.

Burress is an intersting option but he's going to be looking for some big bucks as well.

It's kinda refreshing to hear Gibbs acknowledge we can't go after a big name, high priced player. When was the last time we heard this from Redskins Park??

Maybe if we didn't go after Brunell last year it would be a different story, no sense in unearthing that conversation again though, LOL. I think we beat that horse in to submission.
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Old 02-16-2005, 06:41 PM   #4
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Re: No go Plaxico, or Muhammad?

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It's kinda refreshing to hear Gibbs acknowledge we can't go after a big name, high priced player. When was the last time we heard this from Redskins Park??
Great point. Couldn't agree more.
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Old 02-16-2005, 09:23 PM   #5
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Re: No go Plaxico, or Muhammad?

I'm not sure why we even need a WR. Thrash was a #1 in Philly. I know that he wasn't the best number 1, but certainly could be a good #2 or #3. Jacobs needs a shot at becoming a #2. The emergance of Cooley is going to help in shoring up the passing game. Put the pressure on Gardner in the last year of his contract. Move him to #3, make him block more, and let Coles and Jacobs fly. Face it, there is not a T.O. caliber receiver out there on the market this year.
We don't have a ton of cash, we could really do more good spending on the o-line.
Coles, Thrash, Cooley, Jacobs, Portis. I think we have a few receiving threats we can put out there already.
Look for a good deal. Don't overspend.
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Old 02-16-2005, 10:36 PM   #6
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Re: No go Plaxico, or Muhammad?

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I'm not sure why we even need a WR. Thrash was a #1 in Philly. I know that he wasn't the best number 1, but certainly could be a good #2 or #3. Jacobs needs a shot at becoming a #2. The emergance of Cooley is going to help in shoring up the passing game. Put the pressure on Gardner in the last year of his contract. Move him to #3, make him block more, and let Coles and Jacobs fly. Face it, there is not a T.O. caliber receiver out there on the market this year.
We don't have a ton of cash, we could really do more good spending on the o-line.
Coles, Thrash, Cooley, Jacobs, Portis. I think we have a few receiving threats we can put out there already.
Look for a good deal. Don't overspend.
I too have some confidence in Taylor Jacobs. What little time he played last year seemed productive, and he came up with a clutch catch on a number of occasions. In a year when the Redskins seemed to be all about the 7-yard pass, Jacobs had several 15 yarders, which would certainly qualify for the "chunks" of yardage Gibbs is always talking about. Thrash is O.K., as a number one he's miserable. I think he'd make a pretty average #2, but he's good in the #3 role. I'd like to see someone brought in, in the David Patten or David Givens salary range, who will work hard and compete with Jacobs for the 2nd WR spot. There's something to be said for getting a couple guys of similar abilities and letting them fight it out for the spot. A couple things could happen in that situation: a fire could get lit under Taylor Jacobs to really develop into a prominent receiver in his 3rd year (the magic year for WRs), or a guy like Patten might want to prove that he was brought in for a reason and that reason isn't to sit behind Taylor Jacobs. It seems like if you haven't got the cash to go for a stud, make roster competition and players' pride work in your favor and let them fight it out. Somebody's bound to emerge.
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Old 02-16-2005, 04:18 PM   #7
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Re: No go Plaxico, or Muhammad?

I wouldn't mind seeing TJ here either

What do we think of Travis Taylor?
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Old 02-16-2005, 04:27 PM   #8
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Re: No go Plaxico, or Muhammad?

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I wouldn't mind seeing TJ here either

What do we think of Travis Taylor?

Smootsmack, hasn't Taylor had injury problems throughout his career? If so, then no thanks.

Can someone find a list of the restricted or URFA's? Specifically a list of the available WR's?
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Old 02-16-2005, 04:36 PM   #9
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Re: No go Plaxico, or Muhammad?

WR UFAs:

Plaxico Burress
Jerry Porter
Travis Taylor
Tai Streets
Joey Galloway
Corey Bradford
Charles Lee
David Patten
Bobby Shaw
Alex Bannister
Cedrick Wilson
Troy Edwards
Tim Brown
Curtis Conway
Dedric Ward
Kevin Kasper
Andre King
Reggie Swinton
Troy Walters
Karl Hankton

WR RFAs:

Kelly Campbell
Jonathan Carter
Eddie Drummond
David Givens
David Haddad
Darrell Hill
Randy Hymes
Cedric James
Dane Looker
Lee Mays
Jason McAddley
Freddie Milons
Frank Murphy
Nathan Poole
Micah Ross
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Old 02-16-2005, 04:40 PM   #10
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Re: No go Plaxico, or Muhammad?

damn Matty was right. After Muhammed, Plaxico, and Porter theres pretty much no one left.

Maybe Kerry Campbell???
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Old 02-16-2005, 04:45 PM   #11
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Re: No go Plaxico, or Muhammad?

I'd explore the options of D. Patten or D Givens, but have great speed & good hands. Both would be an excellent #2.

Remember the Skins are looking for a good #2. Burress & Muhammed are #1's & they are looking #1 bucks.

I think Gibbs & company will find the perfect fit to compliment Coles & company.
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Old 02-16-2005, 05:06 PM   #12
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Re: No go Plaxico, or Muhammad?

Smootsmack came up with a spreadsheet of all the UFA's and RFA's, once I get my lazy ass around to it I'll get it up on the site, hopefully tonight.
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Old 02-16-2005, 05:20 PM   #13
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Re: No go Plaxico, or Muhammad?

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Smootsmack came up with a spreadsheet of all the UFA's and RFA's, once I get my lazy ass around to it I'll get it up on the site, hopefully tonight.
It was just the UFAs actually...once I get my lazy ass around to it I can add RFAs

Sorry, I just hadn't even thought of putting RFAs
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Old 02-16-2005, 05:30 PM   #14
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Re: No go Plaxico, or Muhammad?

Let's just make Jacobs our #2... and I'm not just saying that 'cause my last name is Jacobs.
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Old 02-16-2005, 05:43 PM   #15
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Re: No go Plaxico, or Muhammad?

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Let's just make Jacobs our #2... and I'm not just saying that 'cause my last name is Jacobs.

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