49ers Postgame Thread

[NC_Skins]

49ers 17, Redskins 13: Ten Observations - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN


All good points by Keim.

[Gary84Clark]

Bruh, I'm checking out for the season I'm done. When people argue for Colt McCoy over RG3, it's obvious we need a new coach.

[sevier2]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

Bruh, I'm checking out for the season I'm done. When people argue for Colt McCoy over RG3, it's obvious we need a new coach.

We're sure gonna miss the pessimistic comments.

Bye.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

Bruh, I'm checking out for the season I'm done. When people argue for Colt McCoy over RG3, it's obvious we need a new coach.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

Bruh, I'm checking out for the season I'm done. When people argue for Colt McCoy over RG3, it's obvious we need a new coach.

Watching Griffin play QB right now is brutal. He just has no anticipation or feel in the passing game. When does he EVER throw the ball on the 5th step of his drop? Stop double clutching, stop looking like you're taking a jump shot when you throw, set your feet, look like a pro and deliver the effing ball. Let's be honest, now that the read option is pretty much history, we're seeing what he is. QB draws on 3rd and long when you have Jackson and Garçon? Those are giveup plays. I'm not a huge fan of McCoy, but we have more than 100 yards if he's in there. That was an unacceptable pass offense and a big reason is the QB and the coaches lack of confidence in their QB.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Watching Griffin play QB right now is brutal. He just has no anticipation or feel in the passing game. When does he EVER throw the ball on the 5th step of his drop? Stop double clutching, stop looking like you're taking a jump shot when you throw, set your feet, look like a pro and deliver the effing ball. Let's be honest, now that the read option is pretty much history, we're seeing what he is. QB draws on 3rd and long when you have Jackson and Garçon? Those are giveup plays. I'm not a huge fan of McCoy, but we have more than 100 yards if he's in there. That was an unacceptable pass offense and a big reason is the QB and the coaches lack of confidence in their QB.

You're right about both things. RGIII is not playing well and Gruden's lack of confidence in RGIII is glaringly obvious.

That begs the question: Why didn't Gruden do more to try to win the game? Gruden's failure to make some in-game changes that could have helped the offense made it seem to me like he he didn't mind if we lost. For example, he could have given Moses some help. He also could have brought in Palumbus to play RT and moved Compton to the left side. He could have gone to Colt in the 4th quarter (and then start RGIII again next week). This game was winnable but the Gruden didn't do enough to win it. That bothers me a lot. I don't want any HC who doesn't mind losing a game for any reason. I think Gruden has some explaining to do.

[Brody81]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

Bruh, I'm checking out for the season I'm done. When people argue for Colt McCoy over RG3, it's obvious we need a new coach.

How many coaches does Griff need to get fired before you realize it's superman? I mean superman socks!!


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[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

Bruh, I'm checking out for the season I'm done. When people argue for Colt McCoy over RG3, it's obvious we need a new coach.

Need a new coach? Unreal.




Here is something to note. It's not the offensive line.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Need a new coach? Unreal.




Here is something to note. It's not the offensive line.

Sorry but that is one stat list that depending on circumstance can be 100% meaningless or misleading. Look at the top of that list most of those guys are
known as running QBs or highly mobile they are known for holding the ball longer than average believing they can extend plays, those same guys get sacked at a high rate. Look at who is at the bottom, human statue Peyton Manning who drops back to point X and either throws to the open man, throws a receiver open, or the ball away quickly as he knows his immobility gives him limited time. That list pretty much reflects the tendency of those on it not how good or bad the teams pass blocking is. Would you look at that list and say Denver's O-line should get an F grade in pass blocking? I would think not, it of course is the result of a stationary quick thinking quarterback.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

Sorry but that is one stat list that depending on circumstance can be 100% meaningless or misleading. Look at the top of that list most of those guys are
known as running QBs or highly mobile they are known for holding the ball longer than average believing they can extend plays, those same guys get sacked at a high rate. Look at who is at the bottom, human statue Peyton Manning who drops back to point X and either throws to the open man, throws a receiver open, or the ball away quickly as he knows his immobility gives him limited time. That list pretty much reflects the tendency of those on it not how good or bad the teams pass blocking is. Would you look at that list and say Denver's O-line should get an F grade in pass blocking? I would think not, it of course is the result of a stationary quick thinking quarterback.

Good post, agree

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

Sorry but that is one stat list that depending on circumstance can be 100% meaningless or misleading. Look at the top of that list most of those guys are

known as running QBs or highly mobile they are known for holding the ball longer than average believing they can extend plays, those same guys get sacked at a high rate. Look at who is at the bottom, human statue Peyton Manning who drops back to point X and either throws to the open man, throws a receiver open, or the ball away quickly as he knows his immobility gives him limited time. That list pretty much reflects the tendency of those on it not how good or bad the teams pass blocking is. Would you look at that list and say Denver's O-line should get an F grade in pass blocking? I would think not, it of course is the result of a stationary quick thinking quarterback.

Kirk is also on that list at 33 with the same Oline. I'm with the same thinking as you, that list shows how fast the QB decides on the play, more so than how much time the line is supplying the QB.

And with that line of thinking Kirk is in the top of the list as far as assessing the play and making a quick decision. Really kind of makes me wonder what he still may be able to do in this offense. If Robert shows no progress for the next 2-3 games I say go back to Kirk. I'd rather him out there than Colt. If they can help him with the turnovers he could be a very serviceable QB for a few years.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

Kirk is also on that list at 33 with the same Oline. I'm with the same thinking as you, that list shows how fast the QB decides on the play, more so than how much time the line is supplying the QB.

And with that line of thinking Kirk is in the top of the list as far as assessing the play and making a quick decision. Really kind of makes me wonder what he still may be able to do in this offense. If Robert shows no progress for the next 2-3 games I say go back to Kirk. I'd rather him out there than Colt. If they can help him with the turnovers he could be a very serviceable QB for a few years.

I think the int's and throws that should have been int's probably have something to do with that. After all both he and Griff have far less of a sample size to draw these numbers from.
Colt Mccoy is 2-0 and to me has been by far the most effective qb. None of them are probably the long term answer but we should have stuck with the winning hand after the Dallas game. This season might not be over.


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[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

Bruh, I'm checking out for the season I'm done. When people argue for Colt McCoy over RG3, it's obvious we need a new coach.

I thought QB's were judged on wins? That certainly one of your big critiques of KC. He didn't win games.

Griffin is 0-3 in games started. On top of that he is throwing bad balls, missing open receivers, and holding onto the ball too long.

Colt is 2-0.

So, if the QB is Griffin, it's not all about the wins for you - is it?

[Brody81]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I thought QB's were judged on wins? That certainly one of your big critiques of KC. He didn't win games.





Griffin is 0-3 in games started. On top of that he is throwing bad balls, missing open receivers, and holding onto the ball too long.





Colt is 2-0.





So, if the QB is Griffin, it's not all about the wins for you - is it?

Nice!

[SirLK26]

Our defense finally gets some turnovers, and we can't capitalize. Really disappointing.