2015 Coaching Carousel

[JoeRedskin]

Rex Ryan to Buffalo. Interesting move. I predict he will do what he did with Jets, a few good years, couple of deep runs into the playoffs, and then chaos and drama as the inmates take over. Over/under on how long it takes for him to announce the "No one takes us seriously, everyone against us" card.

They have a good D now. He will improve it, but his "Ryanism" will eventually win out and it will all just go to hell.

Still open: Chicago, SF, Atlanta, Oakland, NYJ.

Any thoughts on the openings?

[SFREDSKIN]

And he brought an old buddy from his Baltimore days to be his OC, Greg Roman.

[Lotus]

It's a sad statement about us that Mike Shanahan is getting play on the job market this year. He should be toxic on the market. But many other teams blame people who are still in our FO for the spectacular flame-out, not Shanahan.

[Alvin Walton]

Report: Jets targeting Dan Quinn for new coach

Bears expected to make a major push for Gary Kubiak

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Lotus

It's a sad statement about us that Mike Shanahan is getting play on the job market this year. He should be toxic on the market. But many other teams blame people who are still in our FO for the spectacular flame-out, not Shanahan.

2 rings will keep your name relevant, and yeah it's easy to blame the Skins for his undoing here. But I would't say he's squeaky clean either.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by Lotus

It's a sad statement about us that Mike Shanahan is getting play on the job market this year. He should be toxic on the market. But many other teams blame people who are still in our FO for the spectacular flame-out, not Shanahan.

Let me ask you this, but why should Shanahan be toxic?

Just a few weeks ago people were saying how Shanahan was "forced" into drafting RG3 because it's what Dan wanted, and they were sticking up for him saying that Shanahan knew that RG3 couldn't play the position, but his hands were tied, etc...

Shanahan was not the reason for the flame out. We have a shitty owner - shitty former general manager in Bruce Allen - we don't believe in the draft, always try and fill holes through free agency. For the best part of Shanahan's tenure - we had shitty players and a shitty defense and shitty DC in Jim Haslett. No coach has, or will, win in those circumstances. Jay Gruden has much of the same. He has no answer at QB.

My hope is that Scott McCloughan rights alot of the wrongs listed above. I didn't like Shanahan when he was here, but he was hardly the sole reason for our problems...

[Giantone]

Remember Peyton Manning almost came to Washington because of Shannahan and even stayed at his house out in Colorado ,they are close and he will run an offense that Manning will thrive in when fully healthy .

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Let me ask you this, but why should Shanahan be toxic?

Just a few weeks ago people were saying how Shanahan was "forced" into drafting RG3 because it's what Dan wanted, and they were sticking up for him saying that Shanahan knew that RG3 couldn't play the position, but his hands were tied, etc...

Shanahan was not the reason for the flame out. We have a shitty owner - shitty former general manager in Bruce Allen - we don't believe in the draft, always try and fill holes through free agency. For the best part of Shanahan's tenure - we had shitty players and a shitty defense and shitty DC in Jim Haslett. No coach has, or will, win in those circumstances. Jay Gruden has much of the same. He has no answer at QB.

My hope is that Scott McCloughan rights alot of the wrongs listed above. I didn't like Shanahan when he was here, but he was hardly the sole reason for our problems...

I pretty much agree with everything you said.

My perspective adds the fact that Shanahan took a huge poop on the organization and fans alike on his way out the door. He didn't have to be so unprofessionally spiteful. If I'm an owner, I'm worried about his maybe doing the same to my franchise.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Let me ask you this, but why should Shanahan be toxic?

Just a few weeks ago people were saying how Shanahan was "forced" into drafting RG3 because it's what Dan wanted, and they were sticking up for him saying that Shanahan knew that RG3 couldn't play the position, but his hands were tied, etc...

Shanahan was not the reason for the flame out. We have a shitty owner - shitty former general manager in Bruce Allen - we don't believe in the draft, always try and fill holes through free agency. For the best part of Shanahan's tenure - we had shitty players and a shitty defense and shitty DC in Jim Haslett. No coach has, or will, win in those circumstances. Jay Gruden has much of the same. He has no answer at QB.

My hope is that Scott McCloughan rights alot of the wrongs listed above. I didn't like Shanahan when he was here, but he was hardly the sole reason for our problems...

For a guy that signed on claiming to have "full control" only to now hear about how he never got to pick his coaches (Haslett) or players (RG3 among others), something isnt right. Did Shanahan go full coward to Dan Snyder? Or is the Dan excuse just that, an excuse?

Shanny comes across as having an ego (not necessarily a bad thing in pro sports), so I cant help but question if he would have just cowered to any Dan Snyder whim that was placed on his desk. If Dan fires him, thats a helluva lot of money to make while sitting at home doing nothing or getting a second paycheck from a different team. Shanny comes across to me as a guy who would force the issue if he wasnt getting full say and he honestly believed that the choices being forced on him were bad choices.

Fletcher said in his dissing of Haslett that Shanny recognized immediately that Haslett was a joke, yet Haslett was around his entire tenure. RG3 is big enough to just say it is so due to Dans meddling in the past, whether true or not, but Haslett? Are you honestly telling me that Dan demanded Haslett and refused to allow him to be fired?

Im not a fan of Dan Snyder. But if he truly was 100% running this franchise during Shannys tenure, which is what is now being described, something tells me Shanny wouldnt just accept it. Especially if he had it written into his contract. If he did have it written in, then Shanny chose his coaches and players. If he didnt, his agent blatantly failed in the crafting of the contract.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Lotus

It's a sad statement about us that Mike Shanahan is getting play on the job market this year. He should be toxic on the market. But many other teams blame people who are still in our FO for the spectacular flame-out, not Shanahan.

Shanahan spent an entire season insulating himself from blame.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Lotus

It's a sad statement about us that Mike Shanahan is getting play on the job market this year. He should be toxic on the market. But many other teams blame people who are still in our FO for the spectacular flame-out, not Shanahan.

Shanahan spent an entire season insulating himself from blame. And the reality is he hasn't done anything in the NFL without one of the top 5 all-time QBs.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Shanahan spent an entire season insulating himself from blame. And the reality is he hasn't done anything in the NFL without one of the top 5 all-time QBs.

You mean Steve Young , right ?


Not so sure you are right .


http://www.biography.com/people/mike-shanahan-17134070

[MTK]

I think Buffalo made out pretty well going from Marrone to Ryan.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I think Buffalo made out pretty well going from Marrone to Ryan.

I agree, tho it'd be strange to be a Bills fan. Hate Ryan as the opposition one day, welcome him as your chief the next.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I think Buffalo made out pretty well going from Marrone to Ryan.

bills are fine they will win 8 to 10 games next yr with that d. Plus Kirk Cousins will play well up there