Thank god it's not just the Skins

onlydarksets · 07-13-2005, 01:49 PM

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NASHVILLE, Tenn. - The Tennessee Titans' top draft pick, cornerback Adam "Pacman" Jones, surrendered to police Wednesday on charges of assault and vandalism stemming from a nightclub altercation.

Jones surrendered to Nashville police at Titans headquarters Wednesday morning.

Jones' lawyer Roger May said he had not seen the arrest warrants but has been told the charges are simple assault and vandalism. Both are misdemeanors.

Maybe I'm getting sensitive in my older age, but it always seems like my Skins are getting dumped on. I hate to take pleasure in another's pain, but, then again, they are only misdemeanors.

SmootSmack · 07-13-2005, 01:55 PM

How about Randy McMichael of the Dolphins charged with assaulting his wife...again! Terrible

Redskins_P · 07-13-2005, 02:37 PM

What is wrong with these guys? I mean you're getting paid mad money and you still go out and do something stupid to embrass not only yourself, but your family, teammates, etc. This is getting out of hand all this off the field crap.

BrudLee · 07-13-2005, 02:45 PM

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Jones' lawyer Roger May said he had not seen the arrest warrants but has been told the charges are simple assault and vandalism. Both are misdemeanors.

Great lawyer - "I don't know what they're charging you with, but i'd surrender if I were you."

Paintrain · 07-13-2005, 02:55 PM

I don't get these guys either.. I know it's hard to walk in another man's shoes, but if I had that much that I could potentially lose, I'd probably be the biggest hermit/homebody the NFL had ever seen..

MTK · 07-13-2005, 03:26 PM

The NFL is just a cross-section of society.

There are bad apples in every walk of life. There are criminals at every level, look at Ebbers who just got 25 years for the WorldCom scandal (about damn time they started giving these white collar guys some hard time).

onlydarksets · 07-13-2005, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The NFL is just a cross-section of society.

There are bad apples in every walk of life. There are criminals at every level, look at Ebbers who just got 25 years for the WorldCom scandal (about damn time they started giving these white collar guys some hard time).

No joke - I was at MCI when the Worldcom merger happened, and that guy was shady from day one.

That said, Ebbers, etc. committed crimes of greed, which I think are easier for us to understand than crimes of violence. Obviously I am not justifying what happened at Worldcom or Enron - I'm just saying that we don't see CEOs getting busted for misdemeanor assaults very often, and we rarely see an NFL player get busted for embezzlement.

firstdown · 07-13-2005, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by onlydarksets

No joke - I was at MCI when the Worldcom merger happened, and that guy was shady from day one.

That said, Ebbers, etc. committed crimes of greed, which I think are easier for us to understand than crimes of violence. Obviously I am not justifying what happened at Worldcom or Enron - I'm just saying that we don't see CEOs getting busted for misdemeanor assaults very often, and we rarely see an NFL player get busted for embezzlement.

It might be better if they committed a small act of violence like hitting someone or vandalising their property. What they did at Enron ruined the lives of thousands of people by steeling their retirements.

HermosaBeach Skin Fan · 07-13-2005, 04:14 PM

The bigger question is: What should the league do about it?

Maybe they should be more strict. It really does give a bad image of the NFL. With so many guys trying so hard to play in the league, these guys should be really grateful to be there and not mess things up for themselves. I think these guys feel they are untouchable--and to a certain extent, they are.

diehardskin2982 · 07-13-2005, 04:38 PM

my boy is from atlanta and grew up with Pac-man Jones. He said he is a wild boy who runs with a huge onteroge (did I spell that right), and looks to start trouble. He was at the club in Atlanta where Pac-Man and his crew jumped this big guy the size of a lineman and beat him to a pulp. No charges were filled ofcourse.

12thMan · 07-13-2005, 05:06 PM

Hi guys, I'm fairly new to the site. To Mattyk72's point, the NFL is a cross-section of society as a whole, and there are good and bad people at every level. My only issue is whether you are hurting one at a bar or thousands at a major corporation or uncovering the indentity of a CIA opperative - one hurt is one too many. I think our moral judgements as a country are more of a cultural phenomenon than anything else. It's just amplified when we see celebrities or national figures in the midst of it. It's certainly possible that fame and money doesn't really change a person....it simply makes them more of what they already are.

But as far as the Pac-Man incident goes, how interesting would this story have been had he been available and drafted by the Redskins along with what's going on with ST! The press would have had a field day!

jacobyfan · 07-13-2005, 05:26 PM

I'm waiting to give the "I told you so" to all my Titans buddies. After reading the draft reports and knowing he had a low wonderlic score, I was fairly sure that I didn't want us to end up with him. After watching his interview with Suzy Colbert at the draft, I was convinced he was actually somewhat retarded. I'm actually serious. The guy is no smarter than a bag of doorknobs. Suzy would ask a simple question and he'd give some inaudible response. She would begin asking the next question and would start answering the last one. It took him that long to form sentences. She was pretty flustered. I've seen veteran boxers give interviews like that, but rarely football players. He also looked like 'lil John which was pretty funny.

That Guy · 07-13-2005, 05:18 PM

miami = bad product

jacobyfan · 07-13-2005, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

miami = bad product

Jones is from West Virginia?

Redskins_P · 07-13-2005, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jacobyfan

Jones is from West Virginia?

Correct Pac-Man Jones is from WVA.

07-13-2005, 01:55 PM	#2
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Thank god it's not just the Skins How about Randy McMichael of the Dolphins charged with assaulting his wife...again! Terrible __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

07-13-2005, 02:37 PM	#3
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	Re: Thank god it's not just the Skins What is wrong with these guys? I mean you're getting paid mad money and you still go out and do something stupid to embrass not only yourself, but your family, teammates, etc. This is getting out of hand all this off the field crap.

07-13-2005, 02:55 PM	#5
Paintrain Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 54 Posts: 5,006	Re: Thank god it's not just the Skins I don't get these guys either.. I know it's hard to walk in another man's shoes, but if I had that much that I could potentially lose, I'd probably be the biggest hermit/homebody the NFL had ever seen..

07-13-2005, 03:26 PM	#6
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Re: Thank god it's not just the Skins The NFL is just a cross-section of society. There are bad apples in every walk of life. There are criminals at every level, look at Ebbers who just got 25 years for the WorldCom scandal (about damn time they started giving these white collar guys some hard time). __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

07-13-2005, 04:14 PM	#9
HermosaBeach Skin Fan Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hermosa Beach, CA Age: 45 Posts: 44	Re: Thank god it's not just the Skins The bigger question is: What should the league do about it? Maybe they should be more strict. It really does give a bad image of the NFL. With so many guys trying so hard to play in the league, these guys should be really grateful to be there and not mess things up for themselves. I think these guys feel they are untouchable--and to a certain extent, they are.

07-13-2005, 04:38 PM	#10
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: Thank god it's not just the Skins my boy is from atlanta and grew up with Pac-man Jones. He said he is a wild boy who runs with a huge onteroge (did I spell that right), and looks to start trouble. He was at the club in Atlanta where Pac-Man and his crew jumped this big guy the size of a lineman and beat him to a pulp. No charges were filled ofcourse. __________________ That got ugly fast

07-13-2005, 05:06 PM	#11
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Thank god it's not just the Skins Hi guys, I'm fairly new to the site. To Mattyk72's point, the NFL is a cross-section of society as a whole, and there are good and bad people at every level. My only issue is whether you are hurting one at a bar or thousands at a major corporation or uncovering the indentity of a CIA opperative - one hurt is one too many. I think our moral judgements as a country are more of a cultural phenomenon than anything else. It's just amplified when we see celebrities or national figures in the midst of it. It's certainly possible that fame and money doesn't really change a person....it simply makes them more of what they already are. But as far as the Pac-Man incident goes, how interesting would this story have been had he been available and drafted by the Redskins along with what's going on with ST! The press would have had a field day!

07-13-2005, 05:26 PM	#12
jacobyfan Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Nashville, TN Age: 45 Posts: 172	Re: Thank god it's not just the Skins I'm waiting to give the "I told you so" to all my Titans buddies. After reading the draft reports and knowing he had a low wonderlic score, I was fairly sure that I didn't want us to end up with him. After watching his interview with Suzy Colbert at the draft, I was convinced he was actually somewhat retarded. I'm actually serious. The guy is no smarter than a bag of doorknobs. Suzy would ask a simple question and he'd give some inaudible response. She would begin asking the next question and would start answering the last one. It took him that long to form sentences. She was pretty flustered. I've seen veteran boxers give interviews like that, but rarely football players. He also looked like 'lil John which was pretty funny.

07-13-2005, 05:18 PM	#13
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: Thank god it's not just the Skins miami = bad product

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