Maybe a Turnaround?

[Jamaican'Skin]

The judge is letting Taylor go to work

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/WAS/8641007

MIAMI (July 12, 2005) -- A judge allowed Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor to travel to training camp, and state prosecutors did not offer a plea deal at a court hearing to discuss charges the player pointed a gun during a dispute over an all-terrain vehicle.

Will Taylor attend camp? Will this help to take his mind off things? Will this be the beginning of a turnaround?

Tune in tomorrow for another episode of the soap opera surrounding the Redskins.

What are y'alls thoughts?

[Daseal]

When did Taylor ever say he was holding out for a new contract? When did Taylor say he wouldn't be in camp. I honestly think he took a lot of shit this season and wanted to just go home and get it off his mind and come back fresh. I, for one, feel that constant off-season workouts just contributes to extra injuries. As long as he comes to the MANDITORY camps and not the optional ones I can deal with it.

[diehardskin2982]

Originally Posted by Daseal

When did Taylor ever say he was holding out for a new contract? When did Taylor say he wouldn't be in camp. I honestly think he took a lot of shit this season and wanted to just go home and get it off his mind and come back fresh. I, for one, feel that constant off-season workouts just contributes to extra injuries. As long as he comes to the MANDITORY camps and not the optional ones I can deal with it.

I agree wit u completely well said

[Riggo44]

I think that he will show up and have a pro bowl season. Kobe Braynt played pretty good for the Lakers 2 years ago when he was going through his legal troubles. Sean will do the same. I bet he will get off like Kobe did too.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Riggo44

I think that he will show up and have a pro bowl season. Kobe Braynt played pretty good for the Lakers 2 years ago when he was going through his legal troubles. Sean will do the same. I bet he will get off like Kobe did too.

Damn, as much as I HATE Kobean I have to agree (somewhat) with the correlation.. If Taylor plays to half the level Ko-me played at then he'll be just fine..

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Riggo44

get off like Kobe did.

hahaha, no pun intended right?

[Riggo44]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

hahaha, no pun intended right?

I'm glad you caught that TAFKAS. :thumb:

[sportscurmudgeon]

Daseal:

You are parsing sentences here like former President Clinton. Taylor never said he would hold out because he wanted a new contract, but he did indeed say he is unhappy with his current deal and wants a new one. And he did indeed skip the "voluntary" workouts that all the other Redskins managed to attend; and all the time, found a way not to return any phone calls from his coach. My assessment is that he has not been a "true Redskin" this offseason.

He'll be in camp and I suspect that his agent will be the one who makes sure he shows up on time for camp. Remember, his lawyer in Florida made a point of getting the court's permission for Taylor to leave the jurisdiction of the court to go to camp because it was important to his job and his career for him to be in camp. It would be very bad for the judge back there to learn later that Taylor was holding out and not going to this thing that the judge allowed him to go to. Important rule for people about to stand trial:


Don't piss off the judge presiding over your case!


I don't read minds so I have no idea why he went home and didn't return any phone calls to his team or his coach. Maybe he agent told him to behave that way. Maybe he is an anti-social MEATHEAD. Maybe he just forgot to place the calls. Or maybe he wanted to get his head straight. I don't know; I suspect you don't know,and I'm not convinced that he knows.

There are 32 NFL head coaches and about 360 NFL assistant coaches who disagree with you that offseason workouts lead to injuries and are more harmful than helpful. Until one team decides to put your theory to the test and decides not to have any off-season workouts - and then that team wins at least a divison title - I'm going to go with the approximately 400 professionals in this field and say that offseason workouts are beneficial to NFL players and teams.

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Daseal:

You are parsing sentences here like former President Clinton. Taylor never said he would hold out because he wanted a new contract, but he did indeed say he is unhappy with his current deal and wants a new one.

I've never heard ST or Ronsenhaus say it. Maybe I missed the news article that had these quotes. As far as I know, it's all speculation from the media due to the fact that ST never explained his absences.

[monk81]

Originally Posted by Riggo44

I think that he will show up and have a pro bowl season. Kobe Braynt played pretty good for the Lakers 2 years ago when he was going through his legal troubles. Sean will do the same. I bet he will get off like Kobe did too.

Riggo44...........NEVER EVER EVER compare a Redskin with a (F)Laker......

I'm a Redskin and Spurs Fan and Laker Hater................

[Riggo44]

Originally Posted by monk81

Riggo44...........NEVER EVER EVER compare a Redskin with a (F)Laker......

I'm a Redskin and Spurs Fan and Laker Hater................

Why you don't like a winner? I like it that you Hate the Lakers! You have to be good for somone to care enough to hate you! :thumb:
I guess that's why I can't bring myself to hate the Spurs yet. If they win 7 or 8 more titles then maybe. But untill then I can't bring myself to hate a team that has won 2 and a 1/2(*) titles in 6 years with one team. A boring team with no personality I might add. Win a some more titles with more then one team. And you might start reaching the level of the Lakers. I repeat start reaching there level as a Basketball club. And thus deserving of my Hate. :FIREdevil

Besides If it wasn't for your Ex Laker hitting that 3 pointer you might have lost to Detroit this year .

So keep on hating. I only makes us stronger!

[monk81]

Originally Posted by Riggo44

Why you don't like a winner? I like it that you Hate the Lakers! You have to be good for somone to care enough to hate you! :thumb:
I guess that's why I can't bring myself to hate the Spurs yet. If they win 7 or 8 more titles then maybe. But untill then I can't bring myself to hate a team that has won 2 and a 1/2(*) titles in 6 years with one team. A boring team with no personality I might add. Win a some more titles with more then one team. And you might start reaching the level of the Lakers. I repeat start reaching there level as a Basketball club. And thus deserving of my Hate. :FIREdevil

Besides If it wasn't for your Ex Laker hitting that 3 pointer you might have lost to Detroit this year .

So keep on hating. I only makes us stronger!

1. I can hear Darth Vader breathing as he says, let your HATE strengthen the dark side

2. Spurs are GOOD GUYS hard to hate, good character players much like Joe Gibb's Redskin players........

3. Easy to HATE the Lakers with Phil's sarcastic, well aimed zingers ....... funny how people get upset over the media's treatment of the Redskins, but applaud the media biased FOR the (f) Lakers. And hey they cheated, time ran OUT when Derrek Fischer hit that shot well beyond the .04 clock time...........the Lakers didn't really win that game, and it should've been the Spurs should've been playing the Pistons the year before :angry: It reminds me of an old Cardinal/Redskin game when one ref ruled a Redskin TD as good, and another ref overturned the play, and ruled the TD no good, and Cards won.....I had nightmares over that play for weeks!!!

4. There are quite a few Spur fans that don't like ex Laker Horry, calling him a
Laker spy.........they view Horry much like the Redskin fans did when Snyder signed Neon Deon. BUT remember this Riggo44.......Horry was a ROCKET (We spur fans hate the Rockets too), BEFORE he was a (F) Laker..........

5. Boring??????? You call Manu Ginoboli boring?????? Yes, Duncan is spock like, quiet player and leader, I hope you didn't call Dave Butz or Jacoby boring did you? players that brought their lunch pails and brought their all!!! BTW Duncan has a fantastic sense of humor, as does Brent Barry and Bruce Bowen. And Tony Parker and Eva Longoria are boring????? :confused

The Spurs/Laker rivalry is as intense as the Redskins/Cowboys is to their fans.........FEEL OUR HATE :FIREdevil

[Riggo44]

Originally Posted by monk81

1. I can hear Darth Vader breathing as he says, let your HATE strengthen the dark side

2. Spurs are GOOD GUYS hard to hate, good character players much like Joe Gibb's Redskin players........

3. Easy to HATE the Lakers with Phil's sarcastic, well aimed zingers ....... funny how people get upset over the media's treatment of the Redskins, but applaud the media biased FOR the (f) Lakers. And hey they cheated, time ran OUT when Derrek Fischer hit that shot well beyond the .04 clock time...........the Lakers didn't really win that game, and it should've been the Spurs should've been playing the Pistons the year before :angry: It reminds me of an old Cardinal/Redskin game when one ref ruled a Redskin TD as good, and another ref overturned the play, and ruled the TD no good, and Cards won.....I had nightmares over that play for weeks!!!

4. There are quite a few Spur fans that don't like ex Laker Horry, calling him a
Laker spy.........they view Horry much like the Redskin fans did when Snyder signed Neon Deon. BUT remember this Riggo44.......Horry was a ROCKET (We spur fans hate the Rockets too), BEFORE he was a (F) Laker..........

5. Boring??????? You call Manu Ginoboli boring?????? Yes, Duncan is spock like, quiet player and leader, I hope you didn't call Dave Butz or Jacoby boring did you? players that brought their lunch pails and brought their all!!! BTW Duncan has a fantastic sense of humor, as does Brent Barry and Bruce Bowen. And Tony Parker and Eva Longoria are boring????? :confused

The Spurs/Laker rivalry is as intense as the Redskins/Cowboys is to their fans.........FEEL OUR HATE :FIREdevil

If feel your jealousy a.k.a "HATE". But I understand. If I lived in S.A I would be jealous too. I mean HATFUL towards a team that played in sunny SoCal. A team that has won more games then any other team in U.S sports history. A team that always seems to land the star players. And a team that has a great owner and never stays down for more then a few years. Not to mention the Laker girls! yum yum! So it's all good I understand your pain a.ka HATE.

p.s

I have a picture of Fishers shot on the wall in front of my desk. You can see the ball in the air before the clock expires sorry. :smashfrea


I do like the rivalry we have developed over the last few years. But it's all about score board and the Spurs have alot of chatching up to do if they want to be thought of in the same class as my Lakers!!!

[SKINSnCANES]

Gibbs was letting him go to work to but that didnt get him to do it, lol. I hope he goes and stops worrying about a new contract. That or just add a clause sayign we will pay for his lawyers during the contract. That could add up to more than a signing bonus.

[Daseal]

I'm not saying no offseason workouts at all, however, that was a big topic of discussion on NFL radio today. Also, I believe Brian Billick is really lenient on off-season workouts.