Breakout player for Arizona

gortiz · 12-05-2005, 02:44 PM

What scares about this up coming game is the threat of the WR's for Arizona breaking out, in a big way against a Redskins team that has a bad habit of giving star players monster days ... see Tiki, Porter, Galloway, LT ...

Boldin and Fitzpatrick can GO OFF, and Warner is still able to sling it. We thought that Bledsoe would be a sitting duck, we did 't breath on him ... so I guess what I'm saying is Gregg Williams gonna come up with the right plan this week? At this point I can't even speculate. Is he gonna blitz? Is he gonna take Larry out of the game and force Boldin to beat us? Is he gonna ignore the stagnate Arizona running game and concetrate on the pass? Any thoughts on a Defensive game plan? He guessed right against Fitzpatrick and the Rams ...

FRPLG · 12-05-2005, 02:46 PM

To me we have to blitz Warner. He has shown a remarkable ability to not be able to handle it ove the last few years. The key is we have to blitz and actually get to him. Not sack necessarily but at least pressure and hurry.

scowan · 12-05-2005, 02:48 PM

We seemed to have a better pass rush when C. Griffin is in the game. He helped us get pressure this week and I think they can do it again next week. Heck, if the Skins can just rush for 200 yards again, it won't matter. That chews up clock and really wears out the opposing team. Plus their O never gets a chance to get into the flow of the game.

skinsttw · 12-05-2005, 02:53 PM

We should go after Warner and put him on the turf early. Then, we set the tone for
the game and force him to make bad decisions. We should try to control the line
of scrimmage on both sides and control the clock.

gortiz · 12-05-2005, 02:59 PM

How about Chris Simms, I mean he killed us anytime we gave single coverage to WR's and Boldin and Fitzpatrick are STUDS. I'm so scared one them is going to go off man.

I say we play the pass, and dare the Cardinals to beat us with the run. They are dead last in that category...

And bring the heat on Warner on obvious passing downs ... We don't get pressure, and blitzing 7-8 guys is gonna make two good receivers just that much better...

steveo395 · 12-05-2005, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by gortiz

How about Chris Simms, I mean he killed us anytime we gave single coverage to WR's and Boldin and Fitzpatrick are STUDS. I'm so scared one them is going to go off man.

I say we play the pass, and dare the Cardinals to beat us with the run. They are dead last in that category...

And bring the heat on Warner on obvious passing downs ... We don't get pressure, and blitzing 7-8 guys is gonna make two good receivers just that much better...

its Fitzgerald, not fitzpatrick

12thMan · 12-07-2005, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinsttw

We should go after Warner and put him on the turf early. Then, we set the tone for
the game and force him to make bad decisions. We should try to control the line
of scrimmage on both sides and control the clock.

Don't forget the last time the Skins played Warner, v. the Rams, Arrington laid the wood on him and we recovered the fumble to save the game.

irish · 12-05-2005, 02:56 PM

This is going to be a tough game for the redskins. They have to go across the country which is tough and the skins and the Cards offenses are equal. Therefore it will again be up to the defense to win this game. I think the D will come through but it wont be easy. The skins D backs will have their hands full all day.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 12-05-2005, 02:59 PM

I hope if the Redskins beat Arizona and go 7-6, the people who said the team sucked will eat some crow. This team isn't great, but it certainly doesn't suck.

Schneed10 · 12-05-2005, 05:11 PM

When the running game is as crappy as Arizona's, you can blitz off the edges a ton more. When there is a running game to respect, you pretty much have to blitz up the middle in order to stop any handoffs that you see while you're on the way to the QB. But with no running threat, GW can feel free to bring tons of corner blitzes, or send Arrington and Washington simultaneously.

This also might be a good opportunity to get Chris Clemons on the field more often. He's such a great pass rusher, I love that guy.

Warpath · 12-05-2005, 07:19 PM

The Skins just beat a Rams team with 2 pro bowl receivers in Bruce and Holt. Granted the QB play of Fitzpatrick isnt Kurt Warner, but we blitzed and got pressure. I believe getting pressure on the QB is one of the major keys to the game. And as always and can never be said enough, limiting turnovers and penalties is the most important. I cannot remember how many games we have lost due to this problem. In St Louis The Skins did a fantastic job cutting out the mistakes, and wahlah we win. huh, imagine that. Skins can win in Arizona, and then after coming home with 2 road victories the Skins can beat a struggling Dallas team(who at this point will have lost 3 in a row). Go Skins.

SmootSmack · 12-05-2005, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Warpath

The Skins just beat a Rams team with 2 pro bowl receivers in Bruce and Holt. Granted the QB play of Fitzpatrick isnt Kurt Warner, but we blitzed and got pressure. I believe getting pressure on the QB is one of the major keys to the game. And as always and can never be said enough, limiting turnovers and penalties is the most important. I cannot remember how many games we have lost due to this problem. In St Louis The Skins did a fantastic job cutting out the mistakes, and wahlah we win. huh, imagine that. Skins can win in Arizona, and then after coming home with 2 road victories the Skins can beat a struggling Dallas team(who at this point will have lost 3 in a row). Go Skins.

Nice post. You're right. I wish we had applied more pressure to Kerry Collins. Would have been a different outcome

Warpath · 12-05-2005, 07:29 PM

Yep, should of pressured Collins, Bledsoe, I mean many of the QBs we have lost to this season is because they are statues and given time will cut up any Defense including us. Getting to the QB is extremely important in Gregg's d I believe and when we cannot break through the line and get it, we struggle.

JWsleep · 12-05-2005, 09:40 PM

Helps to have C Griffen back--he really puts pressure up the middle--it collapses the pocket, prevents QBs stepping up, and frees up the blitzers.

THis is a must win (as are all the rest). And there are no easy games for this team. If we can lose to the Raiders at home, we can lose anywhere. But I think if we play our game, we can win anywhere as well.

At least the games still count!!!

That Guy · 12-06-2005, 06:38 PM

we have c griffin, their oline isn't great and warner gets nervous easily... so hopefully we can get to him... this is the best passing attack we'll see all season though.

12-05-2005, 02:44 PM	#1
gortiz Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 498	Breakout player for Arizona What scares about this up coming game is the threat of the WR's for Arizona breaking out, in a big way against a Redskins team that has a bad habit of giving star players monster days ... see Tiki, Porter, Galloway, LT ... Boldin and Fitzpatrick can GO OFF, and Warner is still able to sling it. We thought that Bledsoe would be a sitting duck, we did 't breath on him ... so I guess what I'm saying is Gregg Williams gonna come up with the right plan this week? At this point I can't even speculate. Is he gonna blitz? Is he gonna take Larry out of the game and force Boldin to beat us? Is he gonna ignore the stagnate Arizona running game and concetrate on the pass? Any thoughts on a Defensive game plan? He guessed right against Fitzpatrick and the Rams ... __________________ "If people are underestimating us," Jansen said, "there will be a rude awakening this year."

12-05-2005, 02:46 PM	#2
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Breakout player for Arizona To me we have to blitz Warner. He has shown a remarkable ability to not be able to handle it ove the last few years. The key is we have to blitz and actually get to him. Not sack necessarily but at least pressure and hurry.

12-05-2005, 02:48 PM	#3
scowan The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: KY Age: 55 Posts: 1,559	Re: Breakout player for Arizona We seemed to have a better pass rush when C. Griffin is in the game. He helped us get pressure this week and I think they can do it again next week. Heck, if the Skins can just rush for 200 yards again, it won't matter. That chews up clock and really wears out the opposing team. Plus their O never gets a chance to get into the flow of the game.

12-05-2005, 02:53 PM	#4
skinsttw Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 174	Re: Breakout player for Arizona We should go after Warner and put him on the turf early. Then, we set the tone for the game and force him to make bad decisions. We should try to control the line of scrimmage on both sides and control the clock. __________________ Go skins!

12-05-2005, 02:59 PM	#5
gortiz Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 498	Re: Breakout player for Arizona How about Chris Simms, I mean he killed us anytime we gave single coverage to WR's and Boldin and Fitzpatrick are STUDS. I'm so scared one them is going to go off man. I say we play the pass, and dare the Cardinals to beat us with the run. They are dead last in that category... And bring the heat on Warner on obvious passing downs ... We don't get pressure, and blitzing 7-8 guys is gonna make two good receivers just that much better... __________________ "If people are underestimating us," Jansen said, "there will be a rude awakening this year."

12-05-2005, 02:56 PM	#8
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: Breakout player for Arizona This is going to be a tough game for the redskins. They have to go across the country which is tough and the skins and the Cards offenses are equal. Therefore it will again be up to the defense to win this game. I think the D will come through but it wont be easy. The skins D backs will have their hands full all day.

12-05-2005, 02:59 PM	#9
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 8,317	Re: Breakout player for Arizona I hope if the Redskins beat Arizona and go 7-6, the people who said the team sucked will eat some crow. This team isn't great, but it certainly doesn't suck.

12-05-2005, 05:11 PM	#10
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,422	Re: Breakout player for Arizona When the running game is as crappy as Arizona's, you can blitz off the edges a ton more. When there is a running game to respect, you pretty much have to blitz up the middle in order to stop any handoffs that you see while you're on the way to the QB. But with no running threat, GW can feel free to bring tons of corner blitzes, or send Arrington and Washington simultaneously. This also might be a good opportunity to get Chris Clemons on the field more often. He's such a great pass rusher, I love that guy.

12-05-2005, 07:19 PM	#11
Warpath The Starter Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Potomac Falls, VA Age: 48 Posts: 1,762	Re: Breakout player for Arizona The Skins just beat a Rams team with 2 pro bowl receivers in Bruce and Holt. Granted the QB play of Fitzpatrick isnt Kurt Warner, but we blitzed and got pressure. I believe getting pressure on the QB is one of the major keys to the game. And as always and can never be said enough, limiting turnovers and penalties is the most important. I cannot remember how many games we have lost due to this problem. In St Louis The Skins did a fantastic job cutting out the mistakes, and wahlah we win. huh, imagine that. Skins can win in Arizona, and then after coming home with 2 road victories the Skins can beat a struggling Dallas team(who at this point will have lost 3 in a row). Go Skins.

12-05-2005, 07:29 PM	#13
Warpath The Starter Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Potomac Falls, VA Age: 48 Posts: 1,762	Re: Breakout player for Arizona Yep, should of pressured Collins, Bledsoe, I mean many of the QBs we have lost to this season is because they are statues and given time will cut up any Defense including us. Getting to the QB is extremely important in Gregg's d I believe and when we cannot break through the line and get it, we struggle.

12-05-2005, 09:40 PM	#14
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 55 Posts: 4,717	Re: Breakout player for Arizona Helps to have C Griffen back--he really puts pressure up the middle--it collapses the pocket, prevents QBs stepping up, and frees up the blitzers. THis is a must win (as are all the rest). And there are no easy games for this team. If we can lose to the Raiders at home, we can lose anywhere. But I think if we play our game, we can win anywhere as well. At least the games still count!!! __________________ Hail from Houston!

12-06-2005, 06:38 PM	#15
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: Breakout player for Arizona we have c griffin, their oline isn't great and warner gets nervous easily... so hopefully we can get to him... this is the best passing attack we'll see all season though.

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