Monk and Grimm are HOF finalists

onlydarksets · 01-11-2006, 11:47 AM

http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/re...elease_id=1944

Vote Monk and Grimm!

OK - I added that Grimm is a finalist, but it didn't update the title of the thread. Maybe a moderator can do that for me?

BrudLee · 01-11-2006, 11:55 AM

Great News for Redskin fans!

My crusade to get Monk enshrined may end soon - I look forward to finding a life.

Interesting that Lofton (another WR who is spoken in the same breath as a WR who deserves to get in) did not make the cut this time.

My hope is that Irvin's recent legal issues, while not disqualifying him from induction, will convince voters to lay off him this year - clearing the way for #81.

MTK · 01-11-2006, 11:56 AM

Lenny P said a few weeks ago he thinks Irvin's latest "issues" most definitely will keep him out of the HOF discussion this year. He said it might not be the right thing, but many voters won't be able to overlook his off the field problems.

firstdown · 01-11-2006, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Lenny P said a few weeks ago he thinks Irvin's latest "issues" most definitely will keep him out of the HOF discussion this year. He said it might not be the right thing, but many voters won't be able to overlook his off the field problems.

i have also heard on the other hand that off field stuff is not suppose to be a factor but its hard to figure that people will not have that in the back of their minds.

FRPLG · 01-11-2006, 12:04 PM

Funny how off field stuff has kept Monk out basically and maybe now the same thing to another guy will help him. His less than out-goingness with the media when he played has been his biggest hurdle.

70Chip · 01-11-2006, 04:15 PM

Aikman and White are automatics. The only other inevitable on the list is Irvin who has his issues. To me, if they pass over both Grimm and Monk it would have to be a willful, anti-Redskins act. The other names on the list are not that compelling.

LC Greenwood was a good player but the Steelers are not the only team to win 4 Super Bowls. Greenwood is the equivilant of Keena Turner for the 49ers. The press gets way too carried away with those Steeler teams. Next year I expect them to nominate Terry Hanratty.

12thMan · 01-11-2006, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 70Chip

Aikman and White are automatics. The only other inevitable on the list is Irvin who has his issues. To me, if they pass over both Grimm and Monk it would have to be a willful, anti-Redskins act. The other names on the list are not that compelling.

LC Greenwood was a good player but the Steelers are not the only team to win 4 Super Bowls. Greenwood is the equivilant of Keena Turner for the 49ers. The press gets way too carried away with those Steeler teams. Next year I expect them to nominate Terry Hanratty.

That's funny....Terry Hanratty! He's way back in the day, I don't even remember him except through videos.

htownskinfan · 01-11-2006, 07:50 PM

I wish I was wrong,and I hope I'm wrong,but i dont think Monk will make it now and maybe not ever,listening to my local nfl beat writer John mclain,who is on the hall of fame voting committee,he said theres not that many people backing monk,he says monk wasnt even the best reciever on the team,Clark was,blah,blah,blah,and mclain's wife is a huge skin fan and even she cant get him to vote Monk in,I dont know whats wrong with these sportswriters that dont think Monk belongs in the Hall

44deisel44 · 01-11-2006, 07:57 PM

I've given up on HOF!!! It's as bad as probowl anymore.....makes me sick to stomach that Monk not in yet........TIRED TIRED TIRED of this crap!

wheeler · 01-12-2006, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 44deisel44

I've given up on HOF!!! It's as bad as probowl anymore.....makes me sick to stomach that Monk not in yet........TIRED TIRED TIRED of this crap!

calm down they'll get it together .

mooby · 01-11-2006, 10:08 PM

YOu know, i'd love for Monk and Grimm to get in. But the fact is, sportswriters won't give him the recognition he deserves. You know Fritz Pollard? The guy played in like the 1920's, but he just got inducted last year. So basically i feel like the same thing is gonna happen to Monk, once everyone's forgotten about him he'll make it in.

Riggo44 · 01-11-2006, 10:55 PM

It's a joke that there both not in allready. I sure hope it happens. But I'm not going to hold my breath.

Luxorreb · 01-12-2006, 06:44 AM

I pray for both Monk and Grimm. It is absurd that Monk is not in already. We've already discussed this many times... I just hope Monk gets in this year. Such a class guy compared to a guy like Michael Irvin. Just ludicrous. GO MONK!

sportscurmudgeon · 01-12-2006, 09:02 PM

I'm on record here saying that Art Monk's performance on the field earned him a place in the HoF.

Now I would like for all of the people who think that Art Monk is the poster child for getting screwed over by jealous sportswriters to go and look up Monk's stats and Andre Reed's stats. After you look at them side-by-side, tell me why Reed isn't ALSO in the HoF as soon as Monk gets there? They are pretty much equivalent in terms of career numbers. And by the way, why isn't there a drumbeat about Reed's nomination or lack thereof in the national press?

The football HoF voting process leaves much to be desired - - as does the voting process for the baseball HoF. But for this year's class Reggie White should be a unanimous selection - he was the best defensive lineman in the NFL for the better part of a decade - and Troy Aikman should be close to unanimous. After that, it will be a crap shoot for the other slots.

onlydarksets · 01-12-2006, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

I'm on record here saying that Art Monk's performance on the field earned him a place in the HoF.

Now I would like for all of the people who think that Art Monk is the poster child for getting screwed over by jealous sportswriters to go and look up Monk's stats and Andre Reed's stats. After you look at them side-by-side, tell me why Reed isn't ALSO in the HoF as soon as Monk gets there? They are pretty much equivalent in terms of career numbers. And by the way, why isn't there a drumbeat about Reed's nomination or lack thereof in the national press?

Timing, perhaps. Monk put up incredible stats, but he retired just as a group of WR were on track to do even better. I think the 5 year wait hurt him (he was eligible in 2000?), because he had already dropped to at least 3rd on the all-time list by then (Rice and Carter), I believe. Reed was in that pack. I'm not sure why Reed hasn't got any press. Was this his first or second year of eligibility?

01-11-2006, 11:47 AM	#1
onlydarksets Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: all up in your business Posts: 2,693	Monk and Grimm are HOF finalists http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/re...elease_id=1944 Vote Monk and Grimm! OK - I added that Grimm is a finalist, but it didn't update the title of the thread. Maybe a moderator can do that for me?

01-11-2006, 11:55 AM	#2
BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	Re: Monk and Grimm are HOF finalists Great News for Redskin fans! My crusade to get Monk enshrined may end soon - I look forward to finding a life. Interesting that Lofton (another WR who is spoken in the same breath as a WR who deserves to get in) did not make the cut this time. My hope is that Irvin's recent legal issues, while not disqualifying him from induction, will convince voters to lay off him this year - clearing the way for #81. __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.

01-11-2006, 11:56 AM	#3
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,572	Re: Monk and Grimm are HOF finalists Lenny P said a few weeks ago he thinks Irvin's latest "issues" most definitely will keep him out of the HOF discussion this year. He said it might not be the right thing, but many voters won't be able to overlook his off the field problems. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

01-11-2006, 12:04 PM	#5
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Monk and Grimm are HOF finalists Funny how off field stuff has kept Monk out basically and maybe now the same thing to another guy will help him. His less than out-goingness with the media when he played has been his biggest hurdle.

01-11-2006, 04:15 PM	#6
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 53 Posts: 3,048	Re: Monk and Grimm are HOF finalists Aikman and White are automatics. The only other inevitable on the list is Irvin who has his issues. To me, if they pass over both Grimm and Monk it would have to be a willful, anti-Redskins act. The other names on the list are not that compelling. LC Greenwood was a good player but the Steelers are not the only team to win 4 Super Bowls. Greenwood is the equivilant of Keena Turner for the 49ers. The press gets way too carried away with those Steeler teams. Next year I expect them to nominate Terry Hanratty. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

01-11-2006, 07:50 PM	#8
htownskinfan JUST LIVIN Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: houston,tx Age: 62 Posts: 4,913	Re: Monk and Grimm are HOF finalists I wish I was wrong,and I hope I'm wrong,but i dont think Monk will make it now and maybe not ever,listening to my local nfl beat writer John mclain,who is on the hall of fame voting committee,he said theres not that many people backing monk,he says monk wasnt even the best reciever on the team,Clark was,blah,blah,blah,and mclain's wife is a huge skin fan and even she cant get him to vote Monk in,I dont know whats wrong with these sportswriters that dont think Monk belongs in the Hall

01-11-2006, 07:57 PM	#9
44deisel44 Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 260	Re: Monk and Grimm are HOF finalists I've given up on HOF!!! It's as bad as probowl anymore.....makes me sick to stomach that Monk not in yet........TIRED TIRED TIRED of this crap! __________________ 90% of the game is half mental-John Madden Pure unadulterated uncompromising ecstasy- Jack K.Cooke

01-11-2006, 10:08 PM	#11
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,477	Re: Monk and Grimm are HOF finalists YOu know, i'd love for Monk and Grimm to get in. But the fact is, sportswriters won't give him the recognition he deserves. You know Fritz Pollard? The guy played in like the 1920's, but he just got inducted last year. So basically i feel like the same thing is gonna happen to Monk, once everyone's forgotten about him he'll make it in. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

01-11-2006, 10:55 PM	#12
Riggo44 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Clemente CA Age: 51 Posts: 2,390	Re: Monk and Grimm are HOF finalists It's a joke that there both not in allready. I sure hope it happens. But I'm not going to hold my breath. __________________ Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. Benjamin Franklin

01-12-2006, 06:44 AM	#13
Luxorreb ^21^ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, Virginia Age: 52 Posts: 1,630	Re: Monk and Grimm are HOF finalists I pray for both Monk and Grimm. It is absurd that Monk is not in already. We've already discussed this many times... I just hope Monk gets in this year. Such a class guy compared to a guy like Michael Irvin. Just ludicrous. GO MONK! __________________ ^21^

01-12-2006, 09:02 PM	#14
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: Monk and Grimm are HOF finalists I'm on record here saying that Art Monk's performance on the field earned him a place in the HoF. Now I would like for all of the people who think that Art Monk is the poster child for getting screwed over by jealous sportswriters to go and look up Monk's stats and Andre Reed's stats. After you look at them side-by-side, tell me why Reed isn't ALSO in the HoF as soon as Monk gets there? They are pretty much equivalent in terms of career numbers. And by the way, why isn't there a drumbeat about Reed's nomination or lack thereof in the national press? The football HoF voting process leaves much to be desired - - as does the voting process for the baseball HoF. But for this year's class Reggie White should be a unanimous selection - he was the best defensive lineman in the NFL for the better part of a decade - and Troy Aikman should be close to unanimous. After that, it will be a crap shoot for the other slots. __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

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