Will Saunders Affect Our QB Situation?

[offiss]

I wonder how much of a say Saunders will have in who our QB will be, Trent Green is very similar to our own Ramsey, both are very tough, while Green is a little more elusive Ramsey boast's a much more powerful arm. The Coryell system has alway's been one that needed a QB with a big arm, this could be a changing of the guard as far as brunell is concerned, I do believe we will abandon a lot of the Musgrave dink and dunk offense, does this possibly spell a repreave for Ramsey? Or does it mean a possible promotion for Campbell, it will be very interesting to see how this unfolds?

I really wonder what kind of input he will have concerning the starter.

One thing for sure, I believe Portis should be doing cart wheels right about now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by offiss

I wonder how much of a say Saunders will have in who our QB will be, Trent Green is very similar to our own Ramsey, both are very tough, while Green is a little more elusive Ramsey boast's a much more powerful arm. The Coryell system has alway's been one that needed a QB with a big arm, this could be a changing of the guard as far as brunell is concerned, I do believe we will abandon a lot of the Musgrave dink and dunk offense, does this possibly spell a repreave for Ramsey? Or does it mean a possible promotion for Campbell, it will very interesting to see how this unfolds?

I really wonder what kind of input he will have concerning the starter.

One thing for sure, I believe Portis should be doing cart wheels right about now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was thinking the exact same thing. Not so much Ramsey, cause I think he's gone, but I think that this may accelerate the maturation of Jason Campbell and I think he might get his shot next season. In the KC offense you have a guy who can make all the throws. With all due respect to the season Brunell had, I just don't have faith in his ability to do that. I know he had a good season and helped lead the team to the playoffs, but I think that Saunders may be more partial to Campbell because of his arm strength and physical tools.

[MTK]

Keep wishing there offiss, your boy Ramsey is done here.

If anything I'm wondering how this will help Campbell.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Keep wishing there offiss, your boy Ramsey is done here.

If anything I'm wondering how this will help Campbell.

I said it before, and I will say it again, we will regreat in the long haul giving up on Ramsey!

Until he's officially out of here I will not give up!!!!!!!!

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by offiss

I said it before, and I will say it again, we will regreat in the long haul giving up on Ramsey!

Until he's officially out of here I will not give up!!!!!!!!

I'M with you on this one!!!

[MTK]

Green doesn't exactly have a cannon either, but he's accurate.

[Gmanc711]

Well, the way Gibbs has been speaking of Jason Campbell, I think it could be a real possibility. I'm still very fond of the idea of having Brunell start the season, and if he gets injured then letting Campbell take over. I just dont know if I like the idea of Campbell starting right from the get go, when I feel like this is really a team that can make a serious title run. However, we havent really seen much of Campbell, so its hard to judge.

I wish Ramsey was staying, but i've just accepted the fact that he probaboly wont be bakc.

[SmootSmack]

Is it Effect or Affect?

You bring up an interesting point about Musgrave. I wouldn't say he has a dink-and-dunk offense. But he is West Coast, which is a lot of short passes to move the chains. Saunders, like Gibbs 1.0, is a lot of run, run, play-action.

These are two quite different philosophies. My feeling still is that Musgrave will work on fundamentals while Saunders works with Gibbs on the playcalling.

But I don't think even Saunders can keep Ramsey here. I just think it's best for all parties if they part ways (Ramsey and the Redskins)

[MTK]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Is it Effect or Affect?

You bring up an interesting point about Musgrave. I wouldn't say he has a dink-and-dunk offense. But he is West Coast, which is a lot of short passes to move the chains. Saunders, like Gibbs 1.0, is a lot of run, run, play-action.

These are two quite different philosophies. My feeling still is that Musgrave will work on fundamentals while Saunders works with Gibbs on the playcalling.

But I don't think even Saunders can keep Ramsey here. I just think it's best for all parties if they part ways (Ramsey and the Redskins)

I always get effect and affect mixed up.

I'd love to know the difference and when to use which one.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I always get effect and affect mixed up.

I'd love to know the difference and when to use which one.

OCTOBER 2003 GRAMMAR RULES!

"Affect Versus Effect," by Paula Marie Bentley, Editor-in-Chief

Affect means to influence.

Example: “The rain affected our day.”

Effect means to bring about some kind of result.

“Rain is the effect of moisture in the clouds.”

Affect and effect are two words that are commonly confused.

"Affect" is usually a verb meaning "to influence".

The drug did not affect the disease.

"Effect" is usually a noun meaning "result".

The drug has many adverse side effects.

"Effect" can also be used as a verb meaning "to bring about".

The present government effected many positive changes.

[amorentz]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

OCTOBER 2003 GRAMMAR RULES!

"Affect Versus Effect," by Paula Marie Bentley, Editor-in-Chief

Affect means to influence.

Example: “The rain affected our day.”

Effect means to bring about some kind of result.

“Rain is the effect of moisture in the clouds.”

Affect and effect are two words that are commonly confused.

"Affect" is usually a verb meaning "to influence".

The drug did not affect the disease.

"Effect" is usually a noun meaning "result".

The drug has many adverse side effects.

"Effect" can also be used as a verb meaning "to bring about".

The present government effected many positive changes.

Eh, I was close enough for a football fan

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by amorentz

Eh, I was close enough for a football fan

And dead on compared to a Philly fan.

[amorentz]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I always get effect and affect mixed up.

I'd love to know the difference and when to use which one.

"effect" is a noun, as in "Success was the effect of the Saunders hiring."

"affect" is a verb, as in "Saunders will affect the Skins by making them a more potent offense."

So when you talk of doing it's "affect" and of the results of something "effect."

(My mom used to be an English teacher...dinner was sometimes unbearable! jk mom, jk)

[skinsfan0201]

my vote is to keep Ramsey, and Campell and keep Brunell as a quarterback coach ha ha! JMO

[70Chip]

I think Patrick is leaving no matter what. Somebody compared Ramsey to Trent Green (obviously a Ramsey booster). The difference between the two and between good qbs and average qbs generally, is their ability to see the ENTIRE field. Green has the intangible ability to understand how a play is developing and make the right decision. Montana and Aikman were two of the best you will ever have seen at this. Also I would add Joe Namath and Tom Brady. I remember watching Aikman and thinking that he knew exactly where all his receivers were headed at all times.

Patrick Ramsey still has the bad habit of looking disappointed and flustered when his primary receiver is covered. Throw in a little pass pressure and its pure panic. He does seem to have improved on finding the last resort dump off in his limited action this year. I'm thinking of a pass to Betts against the Giants.

Mark Brunell seems to be able to see about half of the field - usually the left side. They seem to design alot of passes with a short and long target on the same side for him. He is also excellent at improvising the safety valve stuff. The play where Cooley or Royal pass-block and then release late seemed to be his best on third down. What he can't do well is look off an intermediate receiver on his left and find an intermediate receiver on his right, or vice versa.

The question is then, can Jason Campbell see the field. Who knows? I don't think anyone can really know until he plays in regular season games. All the experts thought Heath Shuler was can't miss. He didn't have it. Trent Green was third string for at least two years here as soon as he got in a game, it was like magic. He had 'it', whatever it is.

For the Ramsey lovers among us, I would note that Aikman seems to be quite a fan of Patrick Ramsey's in the Redskins games he has announced when the subject came up. For what that is worth. Maybe he will find a niche somewhere else.