Forget Drafting a WR!!!

[Skins_4_Lyfe]

I think that our best bet would be to avoid drafting a WR with pick #53 in the draft. Unless we can trade up I don't see this being a good idea, I'm not impressed with the WR class this year. We should draft Greg Blue instead. This guy is like a Sean Taylor clone...he plays both safety positions and has more speed than most corners. Almost every negative thing thats said about him can easily be corrected and he (just like ST) has the heart of a linebacker.

We should seek bringing in either Randel El or Antonio Bryant and use a mid round pick to draft some size at the WR position. I am almost sure that the Skins won't upset; last year everyone thought we made a mistake by passing up on Mike Williams, and so far it seems like it was a wise move by going with Carlos. In recent years...first round WRs haven't worked out with us.

What are your thoughts....

[Riggo44]

I'll admit at the time I wanted Williams. But I am glad we drafted Rogers instead. Rogers helped out a lot last year,and is only going to improve CB is a mandatory position in Greg Williams D.We need to have great corners.
Mike Williams might still become a star himself one day. But he sure didn't look that great last year.
I think Gibbs and company have done a great job evaluating the roster and judging the talent they have brought in.

[shallyshal]

Originally Posted by Riggo44

I'll admit at the time I wanted Williams. But I am glad we drafted Rogers instead. Rogers helped out a lot last year,and is only going to improve CB is a mandatory position in Greg Williams D.We need to have great corners.
Mike Williams might still become a star himself one day. But he sure didn't look that great last year.
I think Gibbs and company have done a great job evaluating the roster and judging the talent they have brought in.

williams may not be a bust, but he sure was not impressive last year. rogers was far the better pick, i agree

[shallyshal]

Originally Posted by Skins_4_Lyfe

I think that our best bet would be to avoid drafting a WR with pick #53 in the draft. Unless we can trade up I don't see this being a good idea, I'm not impressed with the WR class this year. We should draft Greg Blue instead. This guy is like a Sean Taylor clone...he plays both safety positions and has more speed than most corners. Almost every negative thing thats said about him can easily be corrected and he (just like ST) has the heart of a linebacker.

We should seek bringing in either Randel El or Antonio Bryant and use a mid round pick to draft some size at the WR position. I am almost sure that the Skins won't upset; last year everyone thought we made a mistake by passing up on Mike Williams, and so far it seems like it was a wise move by going with Carlos. In recent years...first round WRs haven't worked out with us.

What are your thoughts....

totally agree. our success rate of drafting receivers is terrible.

better to use the 2 and 3 picks on def line and off line and pick up the wideout in free agency as you pointed out.

not sure about safety.. blue is solid but i think the bigger need is inthe lines.
clark is serviceable and if we wanted, we could try and sign a young free agent like mickell of the eagles or archuletta of the rams

[Elfsdad]

Rod Gardner, Michael Westbrook, Desmond Howard, Taylor Jacobs. The first three were major draft busts, and Jacobs (the 44th player chosen overall in the 2nd round of the 2003 draft) can be classified as a mini-bust. The Redskins have been snakebit when it comes to devoting a high draft pick to a wideout. They haven’t had a success in that area since they chose Art Monk in the first round of the 1980 draft. That is one long stretch of futility. Stick to free agency to pick up a second wide receiver and use those draft picks on other positions.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Elfsdad

Rod Gardner, Michael Westbrook, Desmond Howard, Taylor Jacobs. The first three were major draft busts, and Jacobs (the 44th player chosen overall in the 2nd round of the 2003 draft) can be classified as a mini-bust. The Redskins have been snakebit when it comes to devoting a high draft pick to a wideout. They haven’t had a success in that area since they chose Art Monk in the first round of the 1980 draft. That is one long stretch of futility. Stick to free agency to pick up a second wide receiver and use those draft picks on other positions.

welcome elfsdad, i agree, and please use bigger font

I like blue, but i think the lines are more important and we're right in the area of starting quality guards too.

[Sociofan]

Originally Posted by Elfsdad

Rod Gardner, Michael Westbrook, Desmond Howard, Taylor Jacobs. The first three were major draft busts, and Jacobs (the 44th player chosen overall in the 2nd round of the 2003 draft) can be classified as a mini-bust. The Redskins have been snakebit when it comes to devoting a high draft pick to a wideout. They haven’t had a success in that area since they chose Art Monk in the first round of the 1980 draft. That is one long stretch of futility. Stick to free agency to pick up a second wide receiver and use those draft picks on other positions.

I agree. The last really great WR on our roster (Santana excluded) was Gary Clark(4 Pro Bowls between '85 and '91)--and he was an undrafted free agent.

[shallyshal]

Originally Posted by Sociofan

I agree. The last really great WR on our roster (Santana excluded) was Gary Clark(4 Pro Bowls between '85 and '91)--and he was an undrafted free agent.

clark, sanders, and clarence verdin all came via the re entry draft for the usfl

[Sociofan]

Originally Posted by shallyshal

clark, sanders, and clarence verdin all came via the re entry draft for the usfl

Damned good call. I'd forgotten about that. Sanders, though, was drafted by the Patriots in that expansion draft. The Skins took Verdin, Clark, and Tony Zendejas. Thanks for the historic reminder.

[paulskinsfan]

Originally Posted by Elfsdad

Rod Gardner, Michael Westbrook, Desmond Howard, Taylor Jacobs. The first three were major draft busts, and Jacobs (the 44th player chosen overall in the 2nd round of the 2003 draft) can be classified as a mini-bust. The Redskins have been snakebit when it comes to devoting a high draft pick to a wideout. They haven’t had a success in that area since they chose Art Monk in the first round of the 1980 draft. That is one long stretch of futility. Stick to free agency to pick up a second wide receiver and use those draft picks on other positions.

Id have to say that Jacobs is full blown bust, as opposed to a mini-bust. He blows.

[onlydarksets]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

Id have to say that Jacobs is full blown bust, as opposed to a mini-bust. He blows.

I think "mini" refers to his low draft position, not his accomplishments on the field. Nobody would argue he has done anything but blow.

[shallyshal]

Originally Posted by onlydarksets

I think "mini" refers to his low draft position, not his accomplishments on the field. Nobody would argue he has done anything but blow.

well.. for the 44th player inthe draft i would say he has achieved true bust status and not mini bust.
you could reserve that status for tydus winans-- a third round bust...lol

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by shallyshal

well.. for the 44th player inthe draft i would say he has achieved true bust status and not mini bust.
you could reserve that status for tydus winans-- a third round bust...lol

Out of curiosity I looked back on Winans' brief NFL career of three years (two with the Skins, one with the Bengals)

His numbers: 23 catches 421 yards 18.3 ypc 2 TDs, 1 carry for 5 yards

Meanwhile, TJ's first three years:
30 catches 315 yards 10.5 ypc 1 TD, 1 carry for -6 yards

[SUNRA]

Just wanted to echo your sentiments about drafting a WR. I agree that our best option is to pick up a free-agent instead of a rookie. Randle El would have been realistic if the Steelers loss the game, but I'm still confident about us getting Brandon Llloyd. He's big enough and has great hands. It's time to get a consistent and dependable 2# or 3# depending on Gibbs' confidence in Patten.

[diehardskin2982]

I think Martin nance is the Wideout for us. His stock may drop considerablly because of a torn ACL in 2004. But he was the Main target for Big Ben at the University of Miami (OH). He is 6-5 210lbs and runs a 4.5 40. In 2003 before his injury he had 90 rec. for 1,498 yards and 11 touchdowns. He had 25 receptions for 337 yards and a touchdown in september before his injury in 2005. Many have him going late 2nd early third. If he is taught in the right system he can become a number 1 WR type player