If You Owned the Redskins what would you do?

RedskinPete · 03-01-2006, 07:08 AM

Now I am not trying to started a new post for the hell of it! I really like to hear from some of you on the CBA and how it works in regard to you if you owened the team. Dan S. is a smart man who has made a lot of money right? Well what is the best thing for him and the team he owns to do. Get a CBA done and cave in on sharing revenues with small market teams? Let the CBA end and take the deep hit of the cap this season with better days in season to come. What is the best for the Washington Redskins long term? Many of you are really into this while some of us are not up to speed. What is the best way to go and why?

mooby · 03-01-2006, 07:16 AM

if a cba was done then we'd be in good shape. If the cba doesn't happen in the next 48 hours, i'd probably let my team suffer this year, then reap the rewards next season when there isn't any salary cap.

dmek25 · 03-01-2006, 07:43 AM

with the skins being the #1 sports franchise in the world right now,dan snyder has everything to gain by holding out.the 2005 team will look totally different from the 2006 model.as well as the 2007 team.the skins will suffer for one season then reap the rewards for an uncapped league.plus all revenue the redskins franchise accumulates will go directly into snyders pockets.you know the old saying the rich get richer.....

jdlea · 03-01-2006, 08:04 AM

I have to say, I would have just sucked up the revenue sharing. He makes a ton of money as it is, there's no way it's worth mortgaging the success we had last season. I don't like the fact that he and a few other owners have been major roadblocks for the deal.

Anyway, that's basically irrelevant because apparently he won't back off. So, next year will be uncapped and then there's supposed to be a lock out. That really sucks.

drew54 · 03-01-2006, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jdlea

I have to say, I would have just sucked up the revenue sharing. He makes a ton of money as it is, there's no way it's worth mortgaging the success we had last season. I don't like the fact that he and a few other owners have been major roadblocks for the deal.

Anyway, that's basically irrelevant because apparently he won't back off. So, next year will be uncapped and then there's supposed to be a lock out. That really sucks.

Everyone is too greedy. Including Danny.

Everyone loses.

RedskinPete · 03-01-2006, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by drew54

Everyone is too greedy. Including Danny.

Everyone loses.

You all need to put the players in that line as well! Reported on NFL Net work that the players [PA] wanted 60% of the gross and the Owners was 53% I believe. Upshaw said the two are so far apart that there is almost no way they will come together. The players are asking to much!!! So put Upshaw and Burnell and the PA as greedy as well!!!! :headbange

That Guy · 03-01-2006, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

with the skins being the #1 sports franchise in the world right now,dan snyder has everything to gain by holding out.the 2005 team will look totally different from the 2006 model.as well as the 2007 team.the skins will suffer for one season then reap the rewards for an uncapped league.plus all revenue the redskins franchise accumulates will go directly into snyders pockets.you know the old saying the rich get richer.....

if the redskins become the yankees, the value of the nfl as a whole goes down, teams start getting seperate tv deals etc and it might actually hurt the skins financially long term. It really depends on how fans of the nfl as a whole react to the haves and have nots.

i'd get a new cba done, cause if the union goes kaput/lockout and the nfl goes to court, it could REALLY lose... then again, without a draft, maybe the haves would be better off (being able to sign at least 4 top ten picks a year)

If i could see 20 years down the road it'd be a much easier decision. I wouldn't cave on revenue sharing without some provision of how my stadium debt was going to get paid off though.

onlydarksets · 03-01-2006, 09:08 AM

I agree with his point about local revenues - why should the Cardinals (who do NOTHING to promote their team) get the benefit of the (often shameless) promotional efforts of the Skins?

Maybe they should distribute revenues according to how much each team SPENDS. I have a feeling a lot of these low-revenue teams don't spend the money, either.

irish · 03-01-2006, 09:46 AM

Currently the skins have a big money owner that spends like crazy but this is not necessarily a permanent situation. There is always the possibility that DS could take a bath on the 6 flags deal and some other financial problems (I'm just speculating) could happen causing him to cut back on spending or even sell the team and suddenly have the skins more like the Pirates than the yankees.

What I'm saying is that the skins situation today is not necessarily what it will be in 10 years so as an insurance policy for the future the skins (and all teams) should do whatever is necessary to keep the NFL from turning into MLB when it comes to revenue sharing (or lack thereof).

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-01-2006, 10:30 AM

I wouldn't call Danny greedy. Ambitious maybe, but greedy, probably not. You should read in one of the articles about the CBA in how Dan is willing to basically forego a BILLION dollars over the next 25 years to get a deal done and save the team for NOW. I mean that SERIOUSLY is loving your team and fan base.

Monksdown · 03-01-2006, 10:36 AM

For my money, I wouldnt believe it if Danny was suddenly not greedy. Greed brings out the best and worst in people. But for Danny, the accumulation of wealth has allowed us to have Joe Gibbs back. It put us in the playoffs last year. It has allowed us to have a consistant, hard nose defense.

God Bless Dan Snyder's ambition.

Atleast he's not on the mic constantly. I like that he is a quiet owner. You know what they say, "Speak softly with a fat wallet."

#56fanatic · 03-01-2006, 01:07 PM

For me : The players what 60%, owners have offers 56.2% or something of that nature. There is a middle ground, the owners and players know it. The NFL is what it is because of the cap and the current CBA. If I was Danny I would try and say "look at my Franchise, lets give the players 58.5 %, see if that does it. we have to admit without a CBA, the NFL will become the MLB. And I am here to tell you, I will be George Steinbrenner, I will buy every legitament player that will put me in the superbowl year after year and your teams will suffer. And also, dont try to take my local revenue. thats my community, my money, keep your hands off. If you would run your teams with the money we give you instead of keeping it in your pocket, you would see some profits.

For the current players : Brunell if he doesn't want to rework the contract, SEE YA!!! Campbell, put your helmet on, you are playing. Deal Ramsey to the highest bidder. Bowen,harris,clark,royal,cartright,holdman,raymer, wynn,noble,maybe daniels, we'll see ya later. good luck in the future. Cutting LaVar isn't saving you too anything, keep him because I doubt we find anyone will his upside for less than 1 million. Patten see ya, trash see ya.(unless patten is cheap this year).
I think we could be competative with Campbell , Portis, moss and our Oline and Cooley and a decent # 2 wr. Our D w/ Griffin, Washington, Arrington, Taylor, Springs, and Rogers. Then 2007, watch out, spend spend spend.

That Guy · 03-01-2006, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by #56fanatic

For the current players : Brunell if he doesn't want to rework the contract, SEE YA!!! Campbell, put your helmet on, you are playing. Deal Ramsey to the highest bidder. Bowen,harris,clark,royal,cartright,holdman,raymer, wynn,noble,maybe daniels, we'll see ya later. good luck in the future. Cutting LaVar isn't saving you too anything, keep him because I doubt we find anyone will his upside for less than 1 million. Patten see ya, trash see ya.(unless patten is cheap this year).
I think we could be competative with Campbell , Portis, moss and our Oline and Cooley and a decent # 2 wr. Our D w/ Griffin, Washington, Arrington, Taylor, Springs, and Rogers. Then 2007, watch out, spend spend spend.

seventeenth time, we can't cut brunell without a new cba, and only thomas would remain on our oline without a new cba.

#56fanatic · 03-01-2006, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

seventeenth time, we can't cut brunell without a new cba, and only thomas would remain on our oline without a new cba.

Hey buddy, I just read about it costing us more to cut him than keep him, so back off. And I seriously doubt you will see us cut all of our O-Line. no way jansen, samuels, thomas get cut. plus Rabach just signed last year so his cap figure shouldn't be too hight. Make sure you are referring to right person when saying you have said this 16 times. I haven't heard it from you once!

#56fanatic · 03-01-2006, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

seventeenth time, we can't cut brunell without a new cba, and only thomas would remain on our oline without a new cba.

Wait a second, you jump on my ass for one person out of the 10 or so I mentioned. someone wound a little tight?

03-01-2006, 07:16 AM	#2
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,477	Re: If You Owned the Redskins what would you do? if a cba was done then we'd be in good shape. If the cba doesn't happen in the next 48 hours, i'd probably let my team suffer this year, then reap the rewards next season when there isn't any salary cap. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

03-01-2006, 07:43 AM	#3
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: If You Owned the Redskins what would you do? with the skins being the #1 sports franchise in the world right now,dan snyder has everything to gain by holding out.the 2005 team will look totally different from the 2006 model.as well as the 2007 team.the skins will suffer for one season then reap the rewards for an uncapped league.plus all revenue the redskins franchise accumulates will go directly into snyders pockets.you know the old saying the rich get richer..... __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

03-01-2006, 08:04 AM	#4
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 40 Posts: 3,109	Re: If You Owned the Redskins what would you do? I have to say, I would have just sucked up the revenue sharing. He makes a ton of money as it is, there's no way it's worth mortgaging the success we had last season. I don't like the fact that he and a few other owners have been major roadblocks for the deal. Anyway, that's basically irrelevant because apparently he won't back off. So, next year will be uncapped and then there's supposed to be a lock out. That really sucks.

03-01-2006, 09:08 AM	#8
onlydarksets Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: all up in your business Posts: 2,693	Re: If You Owned the Redskins what would you do? I agree with his point about local revenues - why should the Cardinals (who do NOTHING to promote their team) get the benefit of the (often shameless) promotional efforts of the Skins? Maybe they should distribute revenues according to how much each team SPENDS. I have a feeling a lot of these low-revenue teams don't spend the money, either. __________________ Stop reading my signature.

03-01-2006, 09:46 AM	#9
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: If You Owned the Redskins what would you do? Currently the skins have a big money owner that spends like crazy but this is not necessarily a permanent situation. There is always the possibility that DS could take a bath on the 6 flags deal and some other financial problems (I'm just speculating) could happen causing him to cut back on spending or even sell the team and suddenly have the skins more like the Pirates than the yankees. What I'm saying is that the skins situation today is not necessarily what it will be in 10 years so as an insurance policy for the future the skins (and all teams) should do whatever is necessary to keep the NFL from turning into MLB when it comes to revenue sharing (or lack thereof).

03-01-2006, 07:08 AM	#1
RedskinPete The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Camino,Ca Posts: 1,174	If You Owned the Redskins what would you do? Now I am not trying to started a new post for the hell of it! I really like to hear from some of you on the CBA and how it works in regard to you if you owened the team. Dan S. is a smart man who has made a lot of money right? Well what is the best thing for him and the team he owns to do. Get a CBA done and cave in on sharing revenues with small market teams? Let the CBA end and take the deep hit of the cap this season with better days in season to come. What is the best for the Washington Redskins long term? Many of you are really into this while some of us are not up to speed. What is the best way to go and why?

03-01-2006, 10:30 AM	#10
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,233	Re: If You Owned the Redskins what would you do? I wouldn't call Danny greedy. Ambitious maybe, but greedy, probably not. You should read in one of the articles about the CBA in how Dan is willing to basically forego a BILLION dollars over the next 25 years to get a deal done and save the team for NOW. I mean that SERIOUSLY is loving your team and fan base. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-01-2006, 10:36 AM	#11
Monksdown The Starter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Warrenton, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 1,515	Re: If You Owned the Redskins what would you do? For my money, I wouldnt believe it if Danny was suddenly not greedy. Greed brings out the best and worst in people. But for Danny, the accumulation of wealth has allowed us to have Joe Gibbs back. It put us in the playoffs last year. It has allowed us to have a consistant, hard nose defense. God Bless Dan Snyder's ambition. Atleast he's not on the mic constantly. I like that he is a quiet owner. You know what they say, "Speak softly with a fat wallet."

03-01-2006, 01:07 PM	#12
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 50 Posts: 1,801	Re: If You Owned the Redskins what would you do? For me : The players what 60%, owners have offers 56.2% or something of that nature. There is a middle ground, the owners and players know it. The NFL is what it is because of the cap and the current CBA. If I was Danny I would try and say "look at my Franchise, lets give the players 58.5 %, see if that does it. we have to admit without a CBA, the NFL will become the MLB. And I am here to tell you, I will be George Steinbrenner, I will buy every legitament player that will put me in the superbowl year after year and your teams will suffer. And also, dont try to take my local revenue. thats my community, my money, keep your hands off. If you would run your teams with the money we give you instead of keeping it in your pocket, you would see some profits. For the current players : Brunell if he doesn't want to rework the contract, SEE YA!!! Campbell, put your helmet on, you are playing. Deal Ramsey to the highest bidder. Bowen,harris,clark,royal,cartright,holdman,raymer, wynn,noble,maybe daniels, we'll see ya later. good luck in the future. Cutting LaVar isn't saving you too anything, keep him because I doubt we find anyone will his upside for less than 1 million. Patten see ya, trash see ya.(unless patten is cheap this year). I think we could be competative with Campbell , Portis, moss and our Oline and Cooley and a decent # 2 wr. Our D w/ Griffin, Washington, Arrington, Taylor, Springs, and Rogers. Then 2007, watch out, spend spend spend.

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