Bigger disappointment?

[MTK]

vote and discuss

[12thMan]

where's the poll Just kidding Matty.

[BMF21]

if they cant stop........ol ass Brad Johnson, when Vick get to town..........it's going to be pitful

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by BMF21

if they cant stop........ol ass Brad Johnson, when Vick get to town..........it's going to be pitful

1st off, Brad is a QB, if given time, will pick most teams apart. Which was the problem last night. I thought our defense was an attacking defense. we hardly brought any pressure. I know we had some back ups in the secondary, but wouldn't you rather have them covering for 2 seconds on a play than 5. Any WR will get open when he has that much time, and any NFL QB will find a WR if they are given that much time.

2ndly, Vick sucks as a passer. I would rather him sit in the pocket and throw the ball around than Brad Johnson.

[skinsguy]

Defense looked like swish cheese. The offense has big play potential, but is going to have to improve in the Red Zone. Still - this defense, regardless of injuries, should be playing better as a unit.

[atbrightwell]

For once the offense looked better than the defense, what is Greg Williams doing? Is he mental? All their run plays were through the left behind Hutchinson. Is it that hard to figure out?

[12thMan]

I thought Carlos Rogers in particular had a bad game defending the pass. His run defense was good, however.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I thought Carlos Rogers in particular had a bad game defending the pass. His run defense was good, however.

Can he turn around and play the ball for once?

He had good position on the TD if he would have just turned around.

[LongTimeSkinsFan]

Defense was horrid. NO pressure on Brad "my knees retired last year" Johnson combined with BS penalties. The "hitting with the crown of the helmet" call was a piece of work. Notice that it was the same head ref that was involved in the spitting incident last year? Taylor should've known he was going to be a target.

[MTK]

Clearly the defense was the bigger letdown to me tonight.

At this point in the season you have to expect the offense to be a little behind, especially with a new system in place.

Granted the defense was missing Springs, but they gave up way too many 3rd down conversions.

[skinsguy]

The most frustrating thing for us is when we get our defense going strong, we have problems with the offense. Now it seems like we have possibly big time potiential with the offense, now the defense wants to let us down. I know this team is going to get hyped for the Dallas game, but I'm very concerned this defense isn't going to have the same success as they did last year and the year before that.

[vaoutlaws2006]

the disappointment for me was that shawn springs wasnt in the game. without springs the defensive scheme was very limited. When you have two has beens or been NEVER beens (wright and rumph) and one potential corner against a very experienced qb you will get these results. We cant dwell on this loss. Its dallas week now. Learn from mistakes and regroup. Oh and by the way can someone say missed opportunities in the red zone. Some of the play calling when we were in the redzone was a little suspect. Hey and where was cooley?

[Beemnseven]

Gregg Williams just didn't seem as fierce with his game plan tonight. Maybe that had something to do with an inexperienced secondary (and boy, did they show it). I expected Brad Johnson to be attacked, harassed, and thrown around like a rag doll. Not even close.

And we STILL do not get pressure on the quarterback with the front four. So far, Andre Carter has not impressed. He and Daniels aren't going to scare anybody. Griffin, Saleve'a, and Golston are fine when the defense as a whole is hitting on all cylinders. But when you allow 8 yards on first down, you've got life easy on 2nd and 2. That's when the Vikings running game was effective.

At some point, you have to expect more out of cornerback taken at #9 overall in the draft. Make no mistake, there are big question marks with Carlos Rogers. With or without Springs, I believe this secondary is in serious trouble.

[skinsfanthru&thru]

defense for the fact that it was expected to help pick up the slack until the offense completely came together. the blitz packages only worked a couple times in the Skins favor, but most of the time left the defense wide open to be picked apart on third down conversions. Rogers needs to learn to actually turn around and play the ball. The offense was very hit or miss, but the encouraging part about the offense was that there were a few times when players like Moss, Portis, and ARE were just an ankle tackle away from busting long plays.

and I don't like to complain too much about the refs but when they made that bs PF foul call on Taylor, the same call should have been made on the viking player who gave a forearm to the back of Lloyd's helmet after the ball was gone on the final drive.

[NYCSkin]

Defense for sure. No pash rush. Poor secondary play. Rogers has to make that leap this year. I am not upset at Rumph or Wright but Rogers has to start playing like a top 10 pick at this point in his career.