Bring on Mr. McIntosh, Warrick is Terrible in Coverage

chris36 · 10-09-2006, 10:32 PM

Please tell me that Rocky is going to get some playing time. Warrick Holdman has been beat so many times in coverage, its ridiculous. He missed a bunch of tackles. Last year, we were vulnerable to the big run play on his side, until he was replaced by Arrington. Get him out and put Rocky in!!

joethiesmanfan · 10-09-2006, 10:52 PM

I agree totally. He was the problem last year and I think he is the problem this year. He is just not good at all. I'm glad Lemar is back in the middle. Now Holdman needs to be removed totally out of Redksins Park.

Beemnseven · 10-09-2006, 11:17 PM

Holdman is only one factor in a bevy of factors for this atrocious defense. If we had a defensive line worth a nickel, Holdman, Marshall and Marcus Washington would be making a hell of a lot more noise. Right now, the front four absorbs everything, never gets penetration, and when lined up against an offense committed to running the ball, they'll get run on.

Not only that, the secondary hasn't been able to cover ANYBODY yet. There are fundamental breakdowns all over this defense. Singling out Warrick Holdman is like General George Custer raising hell with a poor marksman at the Battle of Little Big Horn.

Still, I also wonder what the coaches are afraid of at this point by playing Rocky Mac.

GTripp0012 · 10-17-2006, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Holdman is only one factor in a bevy of factors for this atrocious defense. If we had a defensive line worth a nickel, Holdman, Marshall and Marcus Washington would be making a hell of a lot more noise. Right now, the front four absorbs everything, never gets penetration, and when lined up against an offense committed to running the ball, they'll get run on.

Not only that, the secondary hasn't been able to cover ANYBODY yet. There are fundamental breakdowns all over this defense. Singling out Warrick Holdman is like General George Custer raising hell with a poor marksman at the Battle of Little Big Horn.

Still, I also wonder what the coaches are afraid of at this point by playing Rocky Mac.

There are many issues on defense, and I think Archuleta and Holdman and Rogers are getting the brunt of it. Our Ends have been horrid so far. Holdman is a huge problem and should be replaced. Archuleta has weaknesses in his game and GW knew that when he was brought in here. Archuleta isn't part of the main problem that is no pressure on the QB, he merely is the most picked on DB after the system falls apart. No excuse for his periodic shoddy tackling though. Washington and Taylor aren't making plays. Lemar is playing at Lemar level, but its lost in a lack of success around him. You can run right at Andre Carter every play and be fine. Griffin helps vs the run, but when he's out we are in trouble. Daniels is on the downside. He's lost a bit over last year.

chris36 · 10-09-2006, 11:22 PM

I think you are right. They seem as if they are not happy with what they have seen. He has hardly played a down, maybe non on defense. Williams odviously will let a rookie play. Look at Golston. He let Taylor play some his first year.

Beemnseven · 10-09-2006, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by chris36

I think you are right. They seem as if they are not happy with what they have seen. He has hardly played a down, maybe non on defense. Williams odviously will let a rookie play. Look at Golston. He let Taylor play some his first year.

Good point. Golston has played, though admittedly, only because Saleve'a has been nicked up -- and since this team continues to ignore the defensive line, Williams had no choice but to play him. Then there's Taylor, so yeah, Williams hasn't shied away from throwing his rookies to the wolves, at least for a play here and there.

What's wrong with McIntosh? Why haven't we seen him yet?

Longtimefan · 10-20-2006, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by chris36

I think you are right. They seem as if they are not happy with what they have seen. He has hardly played a down, maybe non on defense. Williams odviously will let a rookie play. Look at Golston. He let Taylor play some his first year.

When asked about the play of his linebackers GW maintained he was satisfied with their performances thus far. So to continually point out the poor play of any one particular player could be inacurate. We are at this time experiencing poor play across the board from various players at different positions. Singling out one player is not a cure for our overall ills.

MTK · 10-09-2006, 11:31 PM

Let's just bench or cut everyone and call it a season.

There are other guys playing worse than Holdman.

vaoutlaws2006 · 10-12-2006, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Let's just bench or cut everyone and call it a season.

There are other guys playing worse than Holdman.

lets see if i can name them. lets start with carlos " i get burnt weekly" rogers, not to mention adam " i got way too much money" archeleta, and andre " i probably should be playing linebacker" carter. Those three right there will make you forget about warrick holdman.

MTK · 10-09-2006, 11:37 PM

With the problems we've had on defense GW probably doesn't want to toss any more rookies or inexperienced guys in there than he has to. Holdman is a vet who's not playing all that bad, not bad enough to warrant being benched that's for sure. Why add to the problems at this point?

illdefined · 10-09-2006, 11:48 PM

can Rocky play corner?

SouperMeister · 10-10-2006, 12:04 AM

Rocky looks like a potential playmaker with his speed and athleticism. Perhaps GW will work him into pass defense packages as he did with Chris Clemons last season.

chris36 · 10-10-2006, 12:14 AM

I was just thinking of Chris and wondering if he could come back now, for those passing situation.

tika49 · 10-10-2006, 01:07 AM

R us freakin kidding me Warrick is terrible maybe you better check your stats , he had 8 tackles in the game I believe just one behind Lemar Marshall you had 9. Many of the redskins defense missed tackles on Sunday. Also Warrick is right up there in the team ranks as far as overall tackles for the year and he does not even plays the entire game he comes out when they run that sorry ass nickle package. Warrick Holdman on defense is the least of our worries dude!

offiss · 10-10-2006, 05:01 AM

Well it's disconsurting to see another draft pick we just had to have can't beat out Warrick Holdman, whether or not Holdman is playing up to par is irrelevant, we gave up picks to get Rocky, if he is incapable of beating Holdman than there is a problem with our ability to evaluate talent.

10-09-2006, 10:32 PM	#1
chris36 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 183	Bring on Mr. McIntosh, Warrick is Terrible in Coverage Please tell me that Rocky is going to get some playing time. Warrick Holdman has been beat so many times in coverage, its ridiculous. He missed a bunch of tackles. Last year, we were vulnerable to the big run play on his side, until he was replaced by Arrington. Get him out and put Rocky in!! Last edited by chris36; 11-04-2006 at 12:14 AM. Reason: Relevance

10-09-2006, 10:52 PM	#2
joethiesmanfan The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,163	Re: Bring on Mr. McIntosh, Warrick is Terrible in Coverage I agree totally. He was the problem last year and I think he is the problem this year. He is just not good at all. I'm glad Lemar is back in the middle. Now Holdman needs to be removed totally out of Redksins Park.

10-09-2006, 11:17 PM	#3
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 50 Posts: 5,311	Re: Bring on Mr. McIntosh, Warrick is Terrible in Coverage Holdman is only one factor in a bevy of factors for this atrocious defense. If we had a defensive line worth a nickel, Holdman, Marshall and Marcus Washington would be making a hell of a lot more noise. Right now, the front four absorbs everything, never gets penetration, and when lined up against an offense committed to running the ball, they'll get run on. Not only that, the secondary hasn't been able to cover ANYBODY yet. There are fundamental breakdowns all over this defense. Singling out Warrick Holdman is like General George Custer raising hell with a poor marksman at the Battle of Little Big Horn. Still, I also wonder what the coaches are afraid of at this point by playing Rocky Mac.

10-09-2006, 11:22 PM	#5
chris36 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 183	Re: Bring on Mr. McIntosh, Warrick is Terrible in Coverage I think you are right. They seem as if they are not happy with what they have seen. He has hardly played a down, maybe non on defense. Williams odviously will let a rookie play. Look at Golston. He let Taylor play some his first year.

10-09-2006, 11:31 PM	#8
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,573	Re: Bring on Mr. McIntosh, Warrick is Terrible in Coverage Let's just bench or cut everyone and call it a season. There are other guys playing worse than Holdman. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-09-2006, 11:37 PM	#10
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,573	Re: Bring on Mr. McIntosh, Warrick is Terrible in Coverage With the problems we've had on defense GW probably doesn't want to toss any more rookies or inexperienced guys in there than he has to. Holdman is a vet who's not playing all that bad, not bad enough to warrant being benched that's for sure. Why add to the problems at this point? __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-09-2006, 11:48 PM	#11
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 48 Posts: 2,631	Re: Bring on Mr. McIntosh, Warrick is Terrible in Coverage can Rocky play corner? __________________ a fan. not a cheerleader.

10-10-2006, 12:04 AM	#12
SouperMeister Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 60 Posts: 3,419	Re: Bring on Mr. McIntosh, Warrick is Terrible in Coverage Rocky looks like a potential playmaker with his speed and athleticism. Perhaps GW will work him into pass defense packages as he did with Chris Clemons last season.

10-10-2006, 12:14 AM	#13
chris36 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 183	Re: Bring on Mr. McIntosh, Warrick is Terrible in Coverage I was just thinking of Chris and wondering if he could come back now, for those passing situation.

10-10-2006, 01:07 AM	#14
tika49 Camp Scrub Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Age: 49 Posts: 13	Re: Bring on Mr. McIntosh, Warrick is Terrible in Coverage R us freakin kidding me Warrick is terrible maybe you better check your stats , he had 8 tackles in the game I believe just one behind Lemar Marshall you had 9. Many of the redskins defense missed tackles on Sunday. Also Warrick is right up there in the team ranks as far as overall tackles for the year and he does not even plays the entire game he comes out when they run that sorry ass nickle package. Warrick Holdman on defense is the least of our worries dude!

10-10-2006, 05:01 AM	#15
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	Re: Bring on Mr. McIntosh, Warrick is Terrible in Coverage Well it's disconsurting to see another draft pick we just had to have can't beat out Warrick Holdman, whether or not Holdman is playing up to par is irrelevant, we gave up picks to get Rocky, if he is incapable of beating Holdman than there is a problem with our ability to evaluate talent.

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