When Will we ever learn to stop listening to the hype before a Redskins season?

[0421kidwell]

We will never stop listening??? For some reason we always believe we will win the superbowl?? We have all the money we get the players, but there has never been chemistry after a off season shoping trip???

[GTripp0012]

Well, to be fair, the members of thewarpath.net are guilty for creating the hype around here. Careful of the term "chemistry". It's not the reason for our defensive struggles. A lack of team chemistry may be the product of a lack of winning, and lack of defensive production. But the reasoning for the reasons are still unknown to many of us. Matty said it best when talking about the defense (I'm paraphrasing) when he said that "its interesting to look back and see how far the defense has fallen." There were signs last year, but we were the number one defense by efficiency in 2004. Two years later...28.

One thing is for sure: any time you have bad defense, you have poor tackling.

[0421kidwell]

Very true! It just amazes me how far they have fallen!

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

Damn all the hype was on here. Start of FA until the Tenn game people on here were going ape s--t on here about the skins. When some of us tried to say the skins were overrated and the other team are going to be alot better were called turncoats or cowbys fans. You will never win in this league by buying FA trading draft picks away,never keeping your proven talent because you dont wont to pay them. Instead the skins just want to overpay on someone else player. Pray to god that someone at redskins park gets a clue one year and decides to run this team like a professional team and not fantasy football. Think someone would have learn his lesson from 2000 {LITTLE DANNY} Hail to the skins.

[Crat92]

CHIEF you're right. People who want to get paid and not produce would love to come to DC! AA needs to be arrested and taken in to custody, cause he's been stealin' a check since the start of the season! HAIL from MCUSA!

[VTSkins897]

never.

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by VTSkins897

never.

I'm such an off-season addict....

It's like crack....

I need to watch highlight videos of all the new superstars, talk about how unfairly good we'll be the next season, and get all crazy. I loose sleep, toss and turn, (Al saunders, cooley, randel el, touchdown, world champions, fireworks, parties) and just anticipate the season.

Then the pre-season comes and I'm still in denial. "We'll be fine, TRUST ME, Gibbs knows what he's doing, he's got it all undercontrol"....

First couple of games mean nothing... We always start slow right? Then the bye week roles around and I'm searching for answers. My friends are reminding me of my claims during the summer. I'm lost in the darkness, hoping that some day my beloved Redskins will show everyone what I've been saying every year. "This is our year baby!, Just see"....

"You say that every year Rob, When will you grow up and realize that the Redskins suck".... No-one understands any more. I'm lonely. The cowboys beat us. As I search for answers I find solace in the Cowboys losing on monday night. As long as the Cowboys are losing, mabye the Redskins can come back and punch them in the mouth.

In two weeks I get to call up the cowboys fans I know, and tell them to be afraid of a team that is about to come out of the gates on all cylanders. This team is pissed off, and nothing will ease every Redskins fans woes like a good ole' dallas cowgirl ass kicking. Hail! bitches, and get ready for some Redskins football.

[MTK]

I guess it depends on what hype you listen to. The media wasn't too high on the Skins especially during August.

Of course there was some hype here on the boards. Shame on us fans for being optimistic and excited about a new season.

Were our expectations too high? Maybe. But this team is definitely underachieving and capable of playing much, much better.

So in reality I don't think we overhyped them as much as they have underperformed.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Were our expectations too high? Maybe. But this team is definitely underachieving and capable of playing much, much better.

So in reality I don't think we overhyped them as much as they have underperformed.

If you're speaking of the offense, then yes -- they've definitely underperformed. But I don't think that's the case with the defense.

Let's take the secondary: Clearly, the most disappointing figure has been Carlos Rogers. Here is a very talented guy, taken #9 overall, had many scouting agencies confirming he was the real deal, and he's done nothing but regress. Either he's not as advertised, or he's decided to coast this year, and not play up to his potential. The jury is still out on that question.

We are getting exactly what everyone should have expected with Mike Rumph. Kenny Wright was brought in to be a third down, nickel corner, seeing the field way more than he was ever expected to. Still, I don't think anyone anticipated how bad he was going to be, limited roles or not.

And Shawn Springs? How long did they expect him to perform flawlessly at 100% health? Sometimes, I think certain members of the coaching staff, and all of the personnel decision makers in the front office see his jersey #24 -- and in their minds, they see #28. It's like a mirage. Apparently, they were under the impression that they could count on him year after year to shutdown every receiver that ever lined up against him until he was 42 years old, without the slightest evidence of a slowdown.

That's just the secondary. That doesn't even address the defensive line and linebackers. I could go on, but I'm at lunch...

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

If you're speaking of the offense, then yes -- they've definitely underperformed. But I don't think that's the case with the defense.

Let's take the secondary: Clearly, the most disappointing figure has been Carlos Rogers. Here is a very talented guy, taken #9 overall, had many scouting agencies confirming he was the real deal, and he's done nothing but regress. Either he's not as advertised, or he's decided to coast this year, and not play up to his potential. The jury is still out on that question.

We are getting exactly what everyone should have expected with Mike Rumph. Kenny Wright was brought in to be a third down, nickel corner, seeing the field way more than he was ever expected to. Still, I don't think anyone anticipated how bad he was going to be, limited roles or not.

And Shawn Springs? How long did they expect him to perform flawlessly at 100% health? Sometimes, I think certain members of the coaching staff, and all of the personnel decision makers in the front office see his jersey #24 -- and in their minds, they see #28. It's like a mirage. Apparently, they were under the impression that they could count on him year after year to shutdown every receiver that ever lined up against him until he was 42 years old, without the slightest evidence of a slowdown.

That's just the secondary. That doesn't even address the defensive line and linebackers. I could go on, but I'm at lunch...

Not sure what you're saying... are you saying the D is playing as expected, or are you referring to the injuries that has forced much lesser talented guys into action?

Injuries have killed them, I'll let them off the hook a bit there. But even when most of the guys have been in there they've been disappointing. For the most part this is the same unit that was one of the top units in the league the last 2 years, now they're dragging along the bottom of the league. I was on the Springs is the key bandwagon early on, but now I'm re-thinking that and wondering what the heck is going on.

Hell, we can even go back to August and see that they were horrible then. I'll admit I thought it was just the preseason at that time and they would work things out, afterall they did just that in each of the previous 2 preseasons, but obviously it was a sign of things to come.

[dmek25]

try saying that 10 times really fast. but i totally agree. there isn't one reason why this team should not, at the very least, be as good as the one from last season. the one thing alot of us are forgetting as last year we stayed pretty much injury free, this years version has alot of key players missing time, or nursing injuries

[BDBohnzie]

the talent is there. this team could really bash some heads in. however, injuries on defense, and such a high learning curve on the 700 page Al Saunders Guide to Winning, has put the Skins in must win to survive mode.

I believe the hype somewhat, but always had that damn angel conscience on my shoulder saying believe in them, but don't believe the hype. at that time, i thought he was on haterade...but he ended up being right. little bastard.

[61cad]

How many fans / people thought the Steelers would repeat?

[dmek25]

not me for the simple reason that last years steelers got every break, every bounce, and every call to win it all. no way that happens 2 seasons in a row

[BDBohnzie]

that and Big Ben is a pantywaste little biotch.