The Moves We Should Make Next Year (merged)

chris36 · 10-29-2006, 10:48 PM

Phillip Daniel, Reynaldo Wynn, Mark Brunnel, and John Hall equals 9.3 million in freed up cap space. They all suck. Does anyone think they will be around next year? For them to retain the guys they have, they have to let some go. These are the most likely candidates. All are shoe ins, except Daniels. Fauria, gives us another million. This will provide us with the room to sign our draft picks. I dont think much else. It does'nt make sense to get rid of Archuletta until 2009. I hope that three weeks from now the Redskins are 4 and 5, and we can stop talking about next year. If the season go bad, it is time to start to build thru the draft. Who ever is making our draft choices and walk on free agents, has done a good job. Just look at Bailey, Smoot, Peirce, and Clark.

70Chip · 10-29-2006, 11:16 PM

A. Find out if Gibbs is coming back so we can deal with he coaching situation. I prefer Williams which means it probaby won't be him.

B. Clean house in the scouting department. The Archeletta thing is a disaster. Somebody wasn't watching the store.

C. Come up with a five year cap plan that will begin to get us out of this yearly debacle of extending and overpaying and finagling. How severe we should be will depend on how soon we:

D. Find out about Jason Campbell. If he's a Schuler then it's time to blow the bridge.

jsarno · 10-30-2006, 01:25 AM

Get a top notch free agent pitcher, the Red Sox just aren't going to get back to the series....oh wait...
1- QB, QB, QB! If we don't let Campbell have his chance this year, there is probably a reason the Skins chose NOT to play him. Let's finally get a marquis qb.
2- fix the CB woes. Archuletta is a bad move, but if we had some coverage in the secondary we could utilyze him as a run stopper.
3- for the love of pete, get a damn pass rusher.

That is all.

SmootSmack · 10-30-2006, 01:30 AM

Here's a question for you guys. I'd say the odds are 90-10 that Brunell won't be back next year and I'll say 80-20 that Collins won't be back. So anyhow, assuming Campbell is our guy next year who is the backup?

Do we draft someone we can groom? Or, considering Campbell will essentially be a rookie, do we go after a veteran QB with playing experience. Some possibilities Jake Plummer (I don't like him personally), Chris Simms (if he's not back in Tampa, I think he'll look to start somewhere else), and here's an intriguing one Byron Leftwich (would bring him back home)

Anyway, I don't like thinking about next year yet but I am curious who might be our backup QB. What do you all think?

jsarno · 10-30-2006, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Do we draft someone we can groom? Or, considering Campbell will essentially be a rookie, do we go after a veteran QB with playing experience. Some possibilities Jake Plummer (I don't like him personally), Chris Simms (if he's not back in Tampa, I think he'll look to start somewhere else), and here's an intriguing one Byron Leftwich (would bring him back home)

Anyway, I don't like thinking about next year yet but I am curious who might be our backup QB. What do you all think?

I don't like any of the veteran options you mentioned, so I'd go with grooming. In case you haven't noticed, only the Cardinals have a worse record than the skins, that means a high draft pick.

bedlamVR · 10-30-2006, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

I don't like any of the veteran options you mentioned, so I'd go with grooming. In case you haven't noticed, only the Cardinals have a worse record than the skins, that means a high draft pick.

The lions, 49ers, Bucs, Raiders, Texans, Titans, Steelers, Dolfins, Browns, Bills are all 2-5 or worse so we would probably be looking at a top 10 draft pick at the moment.

Changes I would make are pick up a DE through the draft and look for Nate Clements through FA.

Give the reigns to Cambell. Stick with him despite what the fans say

Re-sign FA Betts, Dock and Cooley.

Take a long hard look at the left hand side of the defence and the LB corp in particular see how to solve that.

jsarno · 10-30-2006, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bedlamVR

The lions, 49ers, Bucs, Raiders, Texans, Titans, Steelers, Dolfins, Browns, Bills are all 2-5 or worse so we would probably be looking at a top 10 draft pick at the moment.

The Titans beat us, and we beat the Texans...only the Lions, Miami, and Cards have a worse record. (I was incorrect in saying only the cards were worse, they just happen to have the worst record in football right now). So we can easily be looking at a top 5 pick. Especially since we have a tough schedule and we are sucking. If we can't wake up from this deep sleep vs the cowpatties, a top 5 pick is in our future.

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-30-2006, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

The Titans beat us, and we beat the Texans...only the Lions, Miami, and Cards have a worse record. (I was incorrect in saying only the cards were worse, they just happen to have the worst record in football right now). So we can easily be looking at a top 5 pick. Especially since we have a tough schedule and we are sucking. If we can't wake up from this deep sleep vs the cowpatties, a top 5 pick is in our future.

And if we get a top five pick, who the heck do we take?!

EternalEnigma21 · 10-30-2006, 10:24 AM

[quote=TAFKAS;236107]and here's an intriguing one Byron Leftwich (would bring him back home)
quote]

Leftwitch isn't going anywhere, he's injured. If he did, I would pull him in here in a heartbeat... he's a good QB. I don't know if he'd backup JC or not. I think he's a quality starter wherever he plays...

Campbell may be better, though, we just don't know...

Longtimefan · 10-30-2006, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Here's a question for you guys. I'd say the odds are 90-10 that Brunell won't be back next year and I'll say 80-20 that Collins won't be back. So anyhow, assuming Campbell is our guy next year who is the backup?

Do we draft someone we can groom? Or, considering Campbell will essentially be a rookie, do we go after a veteran QB with playing experience. Some possibilities Jake Plummer (I don't like him personally), Chris Simms (if he's not back in Tampa, I think he'll look to start somewhere else), and here's an intriguing one Byron Leftwich (would bring him back home)

Anyway, I don't like thinking about next year yet but I am curious who might be our backup QB. What do you all think?

I, like you do not like the idea of having to think about next year right now, however based on the way things have gone for us thus far, it can't be dismissed as premature judgement.

Our foremost consideration for next year has to be sorting out the QB situation which (in my opinion) is the most important position on the team. We won't have any direction as a team until we decide on who that person is going to be. A great deal of uncertainty complicates the issue because of Gibbs's profound love and commitment to Brunell. If I read you correctly, it is your belief Brunell will not be back next year, assuming you're correct in your thinking (and many of us agree) then we should begin planning now for the changing of the guard. Let's not wait until the beginning of next season to find out whether or not Jason Campbell will be the undisputed leader of this team, the time to find that out is now (through these next eight or nine games) and in so doing, we will erase any "wonder" as to whether or not he has what's neccessary to get the job done. Once the change has been implemented and we can make a true judgement of him based on his play, then we can make other decisions as far as who/what other QB's make up the equation and in what order.

This area of our football team will remain highly speculative until we get a guage on how Gibbs is leaning on the lingering Brunell issue. It may become clearer as the remainder of the season progresses. Other areas of the team will take time to sort out because there are so many issues involved, money, free agency and draft picks head the list. It's going to really be interesting to see how this off-season plays out, mainly because we have so many different issues in so many areas of the team that warrant consideration.

irish · 10-30-2006, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Here's a question for you guys. I'd say the odds are 90-10 that Brunell won't be back next year and I'll say 80-20 that Collins won't be back. So anyhow, assuming Campbell is our guy next year who is the backup?

Do we draft someone we can groom? Or, considering Campbell will essentially be a rookie, do we go after a veteran QB with playing experience. Some possibilities Jake Plummer (I don't like him personally), Chris Simms (if he's not back in Tampa, I think he'll look to start somewhere else), and here's an intriguing one Byron Leftwich (would bring him back home)

Anyway, I don't like thinking about next year yet but I am curious who might be our backup QB. What do you all think?

If they bring any of the QBs you mention here to DC they wont be as back ups.

61cad · 11-08-2006, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Here's a question for you guys. I'd say the odds are 90-10 that Brunell won't be back next year and I'll say 80-20 that Collins won't be back. So anyhow, assuming Campbell is our guy next year who is the backup?

Do we draft someone we can groom? Or, considering Campbell will essentially be a rookie, do we go after a veteran QB with playing experience. Some possibilities Jake Plummer (I don't like him personally), Chris Simms (if he's not back in Tampa, I think he'll look to start somewhere else), and here's an intriguing one Byron Leftwich (would bring him back home)

Anyway, I don't like thinking about next year yet but I am curious who might be our backup QB. What do you all think?

I like the Chris Simms idea.

Get rid of Brunnel and Collins keep Campbell, then bring in Trent Greene as a #3.

ALSO

Please shit can John Hall!!!!

GTripp0012 · 10-30-2006, 02:30 AM

I don't think the backup is a big deal because Jason will be solidified in the starters' role at that point, barring an unlikely deep Brunell playoff run this season. I think you go the veteran route for the backup and preferably someone with some mobility because all you need is a guy who can win a key game if Jason is hurt. Not a great QB in the long run.

I think Todd Collins will be back next year. Maybe even as the no. 2 guy.

dmek25 · 10-30-2006, 05:50 AM

continuity and chemistry are 2 big players in the NFL. if Campbell is the starter, then Collins has to come back. as far as Wynn,hall, brunell, and Daniels, see ya later. if Campbell isn't the starter, i wouldn't be opposed to leftwich, but all his injuries scare me. no way to plummer. and our defense needs a pass rusher,has for years. one pass rusher automatically equals better pass defense

skinsttw · 10-30-2006, 06:13 AM

Start Campbell soon. Draft a DE and cornerback. We need to look hard at a quality backup QB. Not Plummer. Maybe Leftwich.

10-29-2006, 10:48 PM	#1
chris36 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 183	The Moves We Should Make Next Year (merged) Phillip Daniel, Reynaldo Wynn, Mark Brunnel, and John Hall equals 9.3 million in freed up cap space. They all suck. Does anyone think they will be around next year? For them to retain the guys they have, they have to let some go. These are the most likely candidates. All are shoe ins, except Daniels. Fauria, gives us another million. This will provide us with the room to sign our draft picks. I dont think much else. It does'nt make sense to get rid of Archuletta until 2009. I hope that three weeks from now the Redskins are 4 and 5, and we can stop talking about next year. If the season go bad, it is time to start to build thru the draft. Who ever is making our draft choices and walk on free agents, has done a good job. Just look at Bailey, Smoot, Peirce, and Clark.

10-29-2006, 11:16 PM	#2
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 53 Posts: 3,048	Re: The Moves We Should Make Next Year A. Find out if Gibbs is coming back so we can deal with he coaching situation. I prefer Williams which means it probaby won't be him. B. Clean house in the scouting department. The Archeletta thing is a disaster. Somebody wasn't watching the store. C. Come up with a five year cap plan that will begin to get us out of this yearly debacle of extending and overpaying and finagling. How severe we should be will depend on how soon we: D. Find out about Jason Campbell. If he's a Schuler then it's time to blow the bridge. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

10-30-2006, 01:30 AM	#4
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: The Moves We Should Make Next Year Here's a question for you guys. I'd say the odds are 90-10 that Brunell won't be back next year and I'll say 80-20 that Collins won't be back. So anyhow, assuming Campbell is our guy next year who is the backup? Do we draft someone we can groom? Or, considering Campbell will essentially be a rookie, do we go after a veteran QB with playing experience. Some possibilities Jake Plummer (I don't like him personally), Chris Simms (if he's not back in Tampa, I think he'll look to start somewhere else), and here's an intriguing one Byron Leftwich (would bring him back home) Anyway, I don't like thinking about next year yet but I am curious who might be our backup QB. What do you all think? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

10-30-2006, 10:24 AM	#9
EternalEnigma21 Assistant Regional Mod Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Carbondale CO Age: 44 Posts: 2,958	Re: The Moves We Should Make Next Year [quote=TAFKAS;236107]and here's an intriguing one Byron Leftwich (would bring him back home) quote] Leftwitch isn't going anywhere, he's injured. If he did, I would pull him in here in a heartbeat... he's a good QB. I don't know if he'd backup JC or not. I think he's a quality starter wherever he plays... Campbell may be better, though, we just don't know... __________________ I am the brute squad.

10-30-2006, 02:30 AM	#13
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 36 Posts: 15,994	Re: The Moves We Should Make Next Year I don't think the backup is a big deal because Jason will be solidified in the starters' role at that point, barring an unlikely deep Brunell playoff run this season. I think you go the veteran route for the backup and preferably someone with some mobility because all you need is a guy who can win a key game if Jason is hurt. Not a great QB in the long run. I think Todd Collins will be back next year. Maybe even as the no. 2 guy. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

10-30-2006, 01:25 AM	#3
jsarno Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 31 Spooner St. Age: 50 Posts: 9,534	Re: The Moves We Should Make Next Year Get a top notch free agent pitcher, the Red Sox just aren't going to get back to the series....oh wait... 1- QB, QB, QB! If we don't let Campbell have his chance this year, there is probably a reason the Skins chose NOT to play him. Let's finally get a marquis qb. 2- fix the CB woes. Archuletta is a bad move, but if we had some coverage in the secondary we could utilyze him as a run stopper. 3- for the love of pete, get a damn pass rusher. That is all. __________________ Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin

10-30-2006, 05:50 AM	#14
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: The Moves We Should Make Next Year continuity and chemistry are 2 big players in the NFL. if Campbell is the starter, then Collins has to come back. as far as Wynn,hall, brunell, and Daniels, see ya later. if Campbell isn't the starter, i wouldn't be opposed to leftwich, but all his injuries scare me. no way to plummer. and our defense needs a pass rusher,has for years. one pass rusher automatically equals better pass defense __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

10-30-2006, 06:13 AM	#15
skinsttw Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 174	Re: The Moves We Should Make Next Year Start Campbell soon. Draft a DE and cornerback. We need to look hard at a quality backup QB. Not Plummer. Maybe Leftwich. __________________ Go skins!

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